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#1 Posted : 9/26/2011 5:14:21 AM

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Hey guys, when I do the recrystallization process, I always remove the oily impurities that are said to contain dmt-n-oxide for a small changa mix. Recently I smoked some freebase crystals I extracted and they caused me to get very sick. There must be some type of impurity that caused that reaction so I decided to recrystallize the rest of the freebase from that batch. So now I am wondering if it is likely that the yellowish oily impurities that contain dmt-n-oxide will contain the impurity that caused me to get sick as well. I'm not even too sure what caused me to get sick, as I did the extraction process the same way I always have with good results.
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#2 Posted : 9/26/2011 11:23:56 AM

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Yellow oil can be dmt n-oxide, NMT, inactive plant impurities or nasty solvent/chemical impurities if what you used isnt clean. Its hard to judge something by just the color/looks

What do you mean with "getting sick" ? What is your method of smoking?
 
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#3 Posted : 9/26/2011 10:04:12 PM

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Sometimes I like some n oxide. It has a tendency to lend a weirdness factor to the experience.

Its very potent to the point where a couple times I thought I really lost my mind so I keep the doses small and there okay.

I've never felt sick from it though.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/27/2011 3:48:47 AM
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..what plant were you extracting? were you nauseous, or did you simply purge?
bufotenine, and some different compounds in A. floribunda & obtusifolia can lead to spontaneous purging..
M. hostilis may contain a betacarbolines which could theoretically cause this...
 
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#5 Posted : 9/27/2011 9:22:51 AM

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I always rub the dish with some leaf to collect some orange goo - smoked a few leaves from a fresh batch last night, and yes, they are indeed face-melting, but totally safe to smoalk as long as your solvent is good Very happy

I have purged once from Spice, although it has also given me the dry heaves once or twice - the intensity of the experience could have been a factor, or burned spice of course...
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#6 Posted : 9/27/2011 4:36:35 PM

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I am extracting from mhrb. Here is a little more into the experience i purged: I decided to go with the sandwich method between some herbs loaded into a bong, a method that has produced good results for me in the past. After inhaling what would normally be a break through dose i was disappointed to find that I was still pretty grounded in reality, then slowly over the next 30 seconds I felt like I had a toxin almost literally working it way to my stomach.

This caused me to run to the restroom and puke up a small amount of bile. I also had a full dinner in my stomach none of which came out. It seemed like there was something in my body that it wanted to get rid of and nothing else. It was a pretty confusing experience as I have never had something like that happen. Should I use a different technique? Purges you mentioned that maybe burning the spice to much may have caused it? Thanks for the replies guys Smile
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#7 Posted : 9/27/2011 7:09:36 PM

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It is possible that you purged some gunk of some sort - when I threw up it was sort of orange goo - so quite possibly bile... I find burnt spice gives me more of a 'chest purge' if that makes sense - often resulting in coughing up some gunky stuff.

Just try not to burn the spice, I tend to start sucking on the bong with the lighter at a bit of a distance then move it closer until I start to get smoke. You could always infuse the spice in some leaf beforehand which seems to protect the precious DMT some what from the flame, have an experiment - I like Caapi, Jasmine flower and Damiana, although Damiana can be a little bit more tickly, just dissolve spice in some solvent like IPA or Acetone, and evaporate onto the same weight in leaf, easy peasy Smile

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#8 Posted : 10/4/2011 5:02:10 AM

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does 90% IPA work well for changa?
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#9 Posted : 10/4/2011 9:22:12 AM
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..sounds like it could be a slight MAOI effect..M. Hostels contains a small amount of an MAOi, see entheogenic effects of NMT thread in Advanced Chemistry p3, post by wira..
 
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#10 Posted : 10/4/2011 1:05:51 PM

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z0mbie wrote:
does 90% IPA work well for changa?


Yeah, it should work well, I use either IPA or Acetone, just make sure you do an evap test before using it.
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