gufyg
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So I have some yopo seeds that are blackened from me toasting too long.' by smoking, several others an di have demonstrated activity via smoking the burnt seeds. My question is: could These burnt seeds or any weeds be used as-is sublingually? Could I make a crude resinous extract and use it sublingually? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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DMT-Nexus member
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Snorting it works, but is rather unpleasant. SL should work but I don't know how high the bioavailability would be.
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Chen Cho Dorge
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One can mix with baking soda and hold it under the tounge it is active... One can also put it in an alcoholic beverage and strain after a few days and drink. Drink a gin and tonics first... With limeZzz Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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gufyg
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I had read somewhere (I think here on the nexus) that oral bufotenin results in a nasty salt being formed in the stomach... Is this untrue? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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"whenever he drank ayahuasca, he had such beautiful visions that he used to put his hands over his eyes for fear somebody might steal them."
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Dreamoar
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bufo booze you say!? this dreamoar has some sperimentin to do 
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Chen Cho Dorge
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Yeah the bufo booze worked really well. Makes you puke... Most times at least but it's good stuff! Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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gufyg
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Well ok what about just smoking untoasted beans? Doesnt the heat of the flam "toast" it enough to break down the toxins? Or do they still get through and cause excess I'll effects.? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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gufyg
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Ok, after making a salvia Tincture I have quite a bit of 95% grain alcohol and am wondering could I make a tincture of yopo for sublingual use? Has anyone tried before? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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gufyg
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Ok, after making a salvia Tincture I have quite a bit of 95% grain alcohol and am wondering could I make a tincture of yopo for sublingual use? Has anyone tried before? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Fairly responsible Kratom user.
"whenever he drank ayahuasca, he had such beautiful visions that he used to put his hands over his eyes for fear somebody might steal them."
in between the grinding-brakes of a train crash while aluminum-foil robots make obnoxious sex noises on a static-filled walkie-talkie radio.
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Chen Cho Dorge
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Might work... But 95% ethanol is going to hurt your mouth. U can water it down a little and try it. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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gufyg
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How much ethanol per gram of plant material do you think would work? 1 ml per 1/2 gram of yopo seed? بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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"whenever he drank ayahuasca, he had such beautiful visions that he used to put his hands over his eyes for fear somebody might steal them."
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To be honest, i think snorting or smoking Yopo is the best way to get the effects. Snorting can be easier if the Yopo is aged for some months, i read. Good luck with the sublingual anyway. "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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gufyg
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I have smoked the seeds with effects, and had my wife shoot the snuff into my nostrils a few months ago. The experiments were successes, and I wanted to try extracting the bufotenin, but have as we are traveling for a while I have no place to do it properly, leaving crude extracts as my option. I also have a good amount of everclear left after my S. Divinorum tincture (still yet untested, will wait until I am out of East Texas to do so!)and tinctures are schnazzy. I guess tonight I will just start at the start and report back! بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
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"whenever he drank ayahuasca, he had such beautiful visions that he used to put his hands over his eyes for fear somebody might steal them."
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Looking forward to your results, AFR.  "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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