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actualfactual
#1 Posted : 3/4/2011 8:44:51 PM

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I finished my first batch of changa yesterday. it is a mixture of caapi leaf in 10x caapi vine extract with a little bit of marshmallow and peppermint for good measure. rather then going 1:1 I decided to ease into a bit more.. my changa is 38% dmt by weight

in the past i have taken phenibut (has gaba-b activity) before trips occasionally because it puts me in a good mood. I was interested in trying the changa tonite but I took phenibut this morning..

Some sites say phenibut and MAOIs are contraindicated but don't give a reason why while other sites say it is OK. I'd like to err on the side of caution but I was wondering if anyone has any information regarding combining the two? If I have to wait another day that is fine I am curious as to the potential interaction.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/5/2011 5:28:03 AM

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I really like Phenibut. I love it with tryptophan. Perfect synergy. Works very well. I've not tried it with Changa. I can't see where there would be a problem psychopharmacologicaly speaking. Just be careful. Slice been curious about mulungu lately, immense that would go well with Changa.
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#3 Posted : 3/5/2011 7:26:10 PM

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thanks for the replies. I did end up trying it and I was completely blown away.. don't know if it was just the changa or the synergy between the two but the end effect was breathtaking to say the least.
 
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#4 Posted : 3/6/2011 5:31:02 PM

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thanks for the replies. I did end up trying it and I was completely blown away.. don't know if it was just the changa or the synergy between the two but the end effect was breathtaking to say the least.


What dose of phenibut did you take? How long after ingestion did you wait to smoke the changa? During the peak or after?

Have you tried this changa while not on phenibut to compare the effects?

Ideally, for me at least, it would be awesome if phenibut could increase the effects of changa at .5-1.0 gram. This dose is nothing more than a very mild moodlift for me whereas higher doses tend to become overly intoxicating and impaire my judgment beyond a comfortable level, resulting in constant redosing that leaves me with insomnia for days (yes, be careful with phenibut, the dopamine rebound is vicious in a way that puts GHB and the like to shame).
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#5 Posted : 3/6/2011 5:34:44 PM

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Dorge wrote:
I really like Phenibut. I love it with tryptophan. Perfect synergy. Works very well.


How about 5-htp? Is there a reason you would choose tryptophan over 5-htp in general and for this combo?

Thanks Dorge...

P.S: So no one sees a conflict drink Caapi tea 24 Hours after a gram of phenibut?

Thanks...
 
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#6 Posted : 3/6/2011 10:37:13 PM

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What dose of phenibut did you take? How long after ingestion did you wait to smoke the changa? During the peak or after?

Have you tried this changa while not on phenibut to compare the effects?


I took 2 grams in the morning which is nothing more then a moodlift for me.. no intoxication. I smoked the changa that night after the peak.

Unfortunately I haven't tried changa without taking phenibut yet so I can't really compare..
 
 
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