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Eluna
#1 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:01:57 PM

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#2 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:30:48 PM

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"Picture of some changa from the man that invented it"

What's the story behind that ?
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#3 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:39:13 PM

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well down here in the land where kangaroos and koalas wage war tirelessly, and our floral emblem is acacia..we like to throw some pretty gnarly parties in the outback! We sometimes manage to squeeze in some kind of psytrance based music festivals inbetween the kangaroo and koala wars..

You meet some cool people on this nexus forum! and you meet some cool people on the other side of the country who you instantly have a million topics you can discuss before you even know the other persons name. And then sometimes you even meet people from nexus in the bush!!!

Next thing you know well.. you have htis thing in your hand! And you know its from the creator.. because well.. ya just do! (a koala whispered it in my ear)

I then moved to the d-floor and did the tango with a kangaroo, he was okay but i think he had some kind of drug in his system, i think our tango version is much better......
 
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#4 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:43:19 PM

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quote erowid

"Another Australian visiting the Erowid booth claimed to be the person who invented changa. He said it is generally 20% DMT by weight, sourced from Acacia obtusifolia or A. acuminata. This extract is deposited onto a smoking blend that usually contains 60% B. caapi, passion flower, mullein, and peppermint. The remaining 40% typically contains Calendula officinalis, Justicia pectoralis, Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea (or another lily), and Turnera diffusa. He expressed that changa is best smoked from a bong, but that people commonly take 2-3 puffs from a medium-sized joint."

I think i may have just found my ingredients Razz
 
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#5 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:54:20 PM

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Heheheh... Right on bruddha...
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#6 Posted : 2/3/2011 8:56:35 PM

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Eluna wrote:
sourced from Acacia obtusifolia or A. acuminata.


If koala will be speaking again, someone should buy the creator a beer and let him talk a bit more. Extraction technique wise.

New roads can be bumpy but are welcomed, especially if the old ones are getting closed.

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Changa aka Aussiehuasca is a smoking mixture invented by an Australian friend. as such, should you try to make Canga, your first port o'call is having access to Australian acacialoids - n,n,DMT obtained from the relevant acacia varieties and not mimosa h. under no circumstances is synthetic or 'digital' DMT to be used. in Changa, DMT is standardised by weight for 20-25%, b.caapi vine - fresh leaf is also great - is used at at ratio of 30-45%, the rest of balance by weight is a herbal carrier matrix consisting of neutral herbs which nevertheless add a specific synergistic component to the final mix. some herbal constituants include blue /white lotus flower, calendula, mullein and others. Changa is designed to be smoked via your common household bong and produces experiences significantly different in every respect than smoking DMT on its own. many props and praises to the originator.

in Australia, intrepid inventors are pushing the boundaries of the Aussiehuasca experience creating smoking blends from next generation acacialoid technology DMT pushed by weight to 50%-60% and b. caapi to 45%...an average conepiece was weighed at ~300mg, 150 of which is DMT...there is no half way with this material.

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for years the aussie crew have been working on perfecting the smokeable ayahuasca, trying as every chef must every batch...

Eric is right about part of the recipe, the carrier matrix including mmm about 30% b.caapi by weight, the rest can vary to include blue lotus, calendula, mullein, passion flower, spearmint or other herbs that synergystically contribute to the core vibration of the Spirit Molecule and the Vine of the Soul. The DMT is sourced only from Australian acacias, of course, no synthed digital crap or mimosa h. here, just the pure acacialoid elfmagick. the Changa blend is standardised to 20-25% DMT by weight.


[1] http://www.drugs-forum.c.../showthread.php?t=71986
[2] http://www.dosenation.com/listing.php?id=5045
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#7 Posted : 2/4/2011 12:42:04 AM

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Hahahahah!
No mimosa crap or synthesized dmt allowed in Changa huh?! What a joke. Swim has talked to some serious ozzie Changa producers, this sort of emphasis on acacia only is not the common sentiment. Besides it originated in oz but I think it's grown a lot over seas. Also assuiehuasca nah... It can be made globally, it can be made from many plant sources... People make it here from all kinds of sources, rue, passion flower, chalipoonga, all kinds...

Also the plant additives have expanded dramatically... One can infuse kininnikinik leaves and red willow bark with 10x caapi leaf or even rue extract and add some nice Nootka wild rose petals for color and protection. The traditional smoking blend mixture is IMHO the product of very amature smokable herb blending.
There are private forums dedicated to just the emergent spiritual practice of developing Changa blends complete with solvent free methods of extracting spice, and the spiritual art of working with Changa for healing. The path of the changalero is forming in small groups, taking it's basis in an understanding of ayahuasca vegetalismo and adapting it to this unique medicine. It's grown way beyond the billabong psytrance raves that we are eternally grateful for birthing it.
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#8 Posted : 2/4/2011 3:54:26 AM

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agree muchly dorge Smile

But, i got to try mimosa changa for the first time the other week. well "jimjam".. SO VERY DIFFERENT.

But yeah i agree, saying mimosa dmt cant make changa = not valid anymore Smile
 
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#9 Posted : 2/4/2011 5:59:53 AM

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Every batch of Changa is going to be different so is every batch of ayahuasca, and every admixture is going to lend anvery different spirit to the blend. And every tryptamine source is not just a source but a person, an entity with it's own distinct personality and qualities. And it's going to be different in how we relate to each batch because of our expectations and bias and associations each time as well. We must put those things into perspective in working with a medcinenthat is so powerful that it sensitizes us to the very fundamentals of reality itself.
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#10 Posted : 2/4/2011 7:43:10 AM

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Dorge wrote:

No mimosa crap or synthesized dmt allowed in Changa huh?!


It's not like there is Changa institute that makes restrictions and such Very happy I think this refers to the creator of changa, or to be more exact, to his opinion on changa production in 2008. I trust nanobrain enough to believe he is not fabricating the truth.

Dorge wrote:
Also assuiehuasca nah...It can be made globally, it can be made from many plant sources... People make it here from all kinds of sources, rue, passion flower, chalipoonga, all kinds...


Assuiehuasca = because it allegendly originated from Australia. It's just a nickname not a practical restriction. Worldwide baby !

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with solvent free methods of extracting spice


Very interesting. What procedure/equipment is used ? Microwaves ? Has a route been established yet ?

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#11 Posted : 2/4/2011 9:31:10 PM

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Heheh...
Yeah there's a method developing swim can't talk about it yet with out clearance from the international Changa institute!
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#12 Posted : 2/4/2011 9:58:24 PM

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Dorge wrote:
Heheh...
Yeah there's a method developing swim can't talk about it yet with out clearance from the international Changa institute!



If I was developing something like that, this is the type of place I would use to bounce the ideas around. I think the nexus would speed up development.
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#13 Posted : 2/4/2011 11:03:39 PM

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I hear ya, it's not my tek to share... So until I've been given the ok it would be rude otherwise. Intellectual property an all that.
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#14 Posted : 2/5/2011 1:14:12 AM

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Dorge wrote:
Intellectual property an all that.



lol LOL LOL BS LOL lol

When your talking about teks for extracting illicit substances its only intellectual property until you share it. Once you share it you have no rights to it. Seems silly to me if you have a tek that is solvent free and you dont want to share it because of intellectual property rights. Here on these forums information sharing is what its all about.

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the words "Acacia resin" have been thrown around alot.

I think that may indicate the route used, if it indeed is made without solvents.

I can't wait to smoke this stuff!
 
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#16 Posted : 2/5/2011 3:21:25 AM

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You know how it goes ice house, I'm not going to post to post some one elses tek until they have it down and give the green light, just being polite.
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#17 Posted : 2/5/2011 8:47:25 AM

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Well I've been given permission allow me to write it up. One thing I knownis that it's going to take longer...
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I'll roll with Dorge on this one.

There are reasons beyond "intellectual property rights" for a TEK to be "secret" until it's completely done.

EDIT: International Changa institute (ICI) came through Very happy Looking forward of seeing their work.
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#19 Posted : 2/5/2011 3:25:17 PM

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Dorge wrote:
You know how it goes ice house, I'm not going to post to post some one elses tek until they have it down and give the green light, just being polite.

I totally understand and I respect that.

I know that when the info is officially released you'll bring it to us.

respectfully

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so is this a picture of changa made by the guy who invented it?
 
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