^Great pics, thanks for uploading. Do you place the 3 screens below only as "insurance" and did you get any spice to go through into the screens?

Yeah the 3 screens are just incase, i don't think they are that necessary, when i took the liquid pad out to take a pic there was no sign of spice anywhere on the pad or on the screens, not even a hint of DMT smell.

The only place i can see any spice is in the u-bend where some light condensation formed, but none leaked through the hole i'm sure of that

Condensation of vapor is normal and unavoidable. When hot vapor hits comparatively cold glass, some of the vapor will condense. But condensation isn’t the same thing as leakage. Very little vapor condenses with each use (maybe a milligram or so at most?), yet with leakage an entire dose can be lost.

@ Chronic – thanks for the photos. That’s exactly how the liquid pad should be used in the GVG. (Not stuffed to the brim like some people have tried!)

Its funny how slow the condensate crystallizes, my pipe looked completely clean after i finished using it but only when i checked on it today to take those pics i saw the condensation crystallized

I've made now a pad that's 3mm thick and 13mm wide, will see how it works(I'll use two screens under it as "insurance". The original thickness was 5mm but I had to remove couple layers because they weren't holding well together and also compressed the pad a bit with pliers. It certainly is more transparent(when looking at the pad with light behind it) than the original size pad, could this thin pad be too thin?

Possibly, although it might work just fine, only one way to find out...

You can retain the original thickness of the pad easily though, just trim a fresh pad round the edges until it fits, then push it in there with your finger, that simple.

Yes, will have to try. If it leaks, at least I got another one left.

I did just that, trimming around the edges, however at the end of trimming the top layer was so loosely sticking together that I decided to remove it.

Did you use pressure when placing the pad into the bottom of the GVG base? I find it difficult to remove without messing up the form of the pad, if it is pushed into the base. That's why I trimmed it to 13mm and it fits in very easily.

Yeah i do push the pad in there as tight as i can with my finger, to take it out i usually have to pick it out the bowl with scissors, sometimes the pad comes apart a bit but i just press it back together

The way you have done it could work out better, please report back

So I've been playing around with it some more and I believe that most of the leakage is caused by inhaling a little bit too slow so the spice doesn't get hot enough, fast enough.

I was trying to take the looooong slow hits and I really think that it needs a little faster inhalation to get hot enough.

Since using Endlessness' description of heating the element first before smoking and then drawing on it harder than usual, the run-off is way better.

Thanks for everyone's help and input. Once you get everything right, the GVG truly is the best way to go for spice.

Damn it. I just realized I made a huge mistake. I ordered a regular Vapor Genie and not the glass one. Damn It. Hasn't even arrived yet, but I have a suspicion it's not going to be very good.

^^ have you emailed them to say that you made a mistake in ordering it, maybe you could return it, unopened and pay the balance for the GVG?

Great point. I'm going to at least try. Nothing to lose!

So you just take 1 large hit and hold it? I think I'm wasting alot by exhaling too soon (5-10 seconds inhaling then 2 seconds holding), then going for another hit. Approximately how long are you holding it for? Sorry, just can't understand why I'm not getting to the other side.

Well 2 seconds holding it in is way too short time.

Hold until you exhale nothing. Any vapor being exhaled is actives lost.

And yes, 2 seconds is far too short. Shoot for 15-20.

Yes - I usually can inhale a full dose in about 15-20 seconds (although the bulk of the dose is vaporized all at once and is inhaled in a second or so). I then hold it for as long as I can – usually another 15-20 seconds or longer. How long depends on how quickly I start drifting off – I like to exhale and get a breath of fresh air before I “leave”.

If you inhale for only 5 seconds and then exhale after 2 seconds, most of the little bit you inhaled is wasted.

A friend of mine inhaled for a long time and then exhaled in a second or two, and he got a deep experience(didn't even hear the music in the room etc.) with a dose of 20-30mg. So inhaling for long time might count as keeping the smoke in, any thoughts on this?

OK...so after about four months of letting the GVG sit in a drawer unused, I made up a thin disc of very fine steel wool, teased it out to the full inside diameter of the GVG, and set it snugly into place atop one screen. Loaded up a bit more than my customary dose (figuring there would be losses in the steel wool not vaporized) and hit it.

I have to say, for a non-smoker, this is an excellent tool. Way less harsh going in than with an oil pipe, my usual implement. The experience was on par with my usual...not a very deep experience. Dunno what the problem has been for the past two months or so. Not even getting good visuals, but enjoying the light stoning and afterglow nonetheless. Guess I'll use the GVG going forward...once the steel wool is fully charged, I think there will be deeper journeys ahead.

N.B.

My friend recently spoke to me about fear. It's healthy to be fearful of any new adventure that may have an uncertain outcome. She said, psychedelics always have some chance of going somewhere unexpected, and if they didn't, she wouldn't be so intrigued by them. Judging a good set and setting isn't a perfect science either since both external and internal factors are subject to change and/or mis-judgment. The fact that psychedelics are used so often by so many says that most of the time, people get it right, but there is no perfect security, only opportunity.

She mentioned another interesting thing about the spice that others on Nexus have also pointed out. A non-breakthrough dose is not so pleasant for her and causes feelings of anxiety. A solid breakthrough seems to cause a warming sense of wellbeing that smothers the fear. This is a little bit of a paradox. She fears the spice and yet she must 'jump all the way in' to insure that the fear doesn't get amplified due to low dose anxiety.

Part of her fear problem seems to be solved. After acquiring a GVG and torch, launches are now very reliable. Even controling the flight altitude is possible as never before. At some point, she is certain some kind of difficulty might arise, but for now she says,"Hell yeah! Removing sources of launch failure eliminated some of the uncertainty and also, some of the fear." She is a GVG convert.

The DMT would melt and drip right off of the screens – most of the 100mg will accumulate on the inner glass sidewalls of the GVG.

As I said in my last post:

Even with an ordinary pipe, if you keep a bic-type lighter so that the flame tip is 1” or more from the spice, you shouldn’t have any burning. It defies logic to explain how you’re managing to burn spice in your GVG.