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#1 Posted : 1/11/2011 12:03:20 PM

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I started with 1000mg ginger powder (mixed with warm water...for anti-nausea). Ginger is a lot spicier than I realized! I think next time I'll make it into a more diluted tea than I did this time.

About 15 minutes later I took the Rue. I doubled up from last try to 4g, and ran the coarsely ground seeds through a coffee grinder this time. I mixed it with some warm water and a little lemon juice. It felt like drinking sand...bleh. Not sure if finely ground was any easier to drink than the coarse or not. Placing in capsules sounds good!

Roughly 25 minutes later I drank 40mg freebase in plum juice. Next time I will up this dosage as after waiting an hour for the FB to kick in, I was getting just light visuals. I will probably take it at the same time as the Rue as well to try to speed up the start of the trip.

At this point I took a tiny vaped hit of FB to get things started...and that's when the fun began Very happy I also took a second, slightly larger one roughly 30 minutes later.

I was in too much of a trance to prepare a 2nd oral dose...maybe I'll have that ready next time as well. The experience felt pretty much like a LONG, easy vape session. The experience lasted about 3 hours from the time of the first vaped hit, and I probably could have meditated longer if I had the time. (And how long does one generally stay MAOI'd out of curiosity?)

The nausea was pretty mild and very tolerable...no purges and no negatives from the Rue that I could feel. I tend to have a weak stomach, so I'm very excited that this simple combination works so well and w/o nausea and w/o extracting the harmalas!

Trip:
As far as the trip itself...it was beautiful Very happy Very happy I didn't have a breakthrough, but it was VERY healing...I was able to clear out a lot of wound-up energy that I didn't need to hold onto. There was a lot of vocalizing, but it was all primal, cave-man-ish grunts and sounds.

For example, I would pick a person and see if I was holding onto anything from the past that needed to be let go. Then the energy would build up, and I would have a gut-squeeze and a loud, quick grunt. The more I needed to let go of, the more vocalizing that occurred. I ended up going though everyone I could think of and any hang-ups I could remember. It felt GREAT being able to unwind and release all those tensions!

I also tried an alchemical healing on my wife's physical body (she was not present though). She has a lot of stomach issues, etc. I sort of 'became' her body and the energy built up for several minutes through some body gyrations and peaked a few times with some nice long, loud 'squeezes'. (I also asked the Earth to accept these energies and transform them to their highest potential...but I would do that without the medicine as well). We'll have to wait and see how much it helped her.

Thanks to everyone who's helped me this past week, as well as everyone else who's posted about Rue and FB in the past. It was a terrific experience! There was a lot more to it, but I'm not so talented at putting my trips into words, so I'll leave it at this for now.

Namaste

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#2 Posted : 1/11/2011 12:46:23 PM

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brrrr, 4 g of rue seeds... I'm surprised that you didn't feel nauseated. I will definitely try the ginger-powder next time though, and eat it BEFORE I dose pharma, since afterwards I was feeling ill almost immediately and couldn't get even a bite of ginger down anymore.

Your experience sounds quite nice. Navigating through it, using energies... very productive!

thanks for sharing!
Much love

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#3 Posted : 1/11/2011 1:09:43 PM

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BTW - I am 5'9 and 135lbs...pretty skinny. I think I have a pretty high metabolism...and when I tried 2grams the first time I didn't get MAOI'd, so it was suggested that I double up. I was a bit trepid at 4g, but it turned out just fine :-)
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#4 Posted : 1/11/2011 2:00:12 PM

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Wow you pretty much did my combo (except now I gotta try this ginger that everyone's been talking about Twisted Evil ) and no nausea. Yeah, I've tried drinking the rue, and absolutely could not do it. Gel caps with poked holes are definitely the way to go. From what I'm to understand, I think DMT-fumarate makes the experience come on faster. And yeah, those vaped hits are always the best part for me Wink Glad to hear it went well. Makin' me wanna dose up Laughing
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#5 Posted : 1/11/2011 6:09:38 PM

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I actually like the taste of Rue tea but I make it like tea, no prolonged boiling, putting ground seeds in a tea-egg. Maybe not as efficient but enough makes it into the liquid even without acid.

Good idea to inhale some DMT if the oral DMT dosage is on the low side. Vaping when orally MAOId is fantastic, you get so much more out of your DMT!
 
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#6 Posted : 1/11/2011 6:53:02 PM

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Yeah. The way I look at it is that there is a synergy between the MAOI and the oral DMT you took, the MAOI and the inhaled DMT and most likely the oral DMT and the inhaled DMT. You gotta be prepared to be blown away for an extended period of time though.
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"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
 
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