Since this trip I didn't take DMT or any other psychedelic, and I think something strange happened to me.

The matter of fact is each day, just as sun comes down and hides beneath the horizon, my head begins to feel that warm fuzzy DMT highness, then some very mild and minor visuals occure, but the psychological effect is very very strong, almost like a full DMT dose, spirits talk to me in my mind and I experience all those touchy DMT senses (melting of body, descending into the black hole).

The spirits ask me to let go of this world and follow them to their own world forever, everytime I close my eyes and try to sleep they appear stronger and stronger, that is something I have to fight constantly to refuse, the psychological feeling is veeery strong that I feel if I don't try to refuse and let go they will take me to their world forever.

The more I refuse them, the stronger the effects become, sometimes with eyes closed I see "still images" of entities, like portrait pictures and trust me they don't look funny or friendly.

After 3 nights without sleeping (I can't sleep with all these effects, I believe if I sleep they will take me forever) the effects became the strongest, and I was going mad and schizophrenic, I started to lost the memory of who I am and where I am for some minutes and then realize who I am again multiple times, It was very scary to know I was beginning to lose my mind.

Then I went to a psychiatrist, he prescribed me with multiple anti-psychotic pills and I was finally able to sleep and the effects vanished. but the effects may come back when I finish the medication period.

What do you think about this?

Edit: BTW even on anti-psychotic drugs, I still experience some minor visual distortions in objects, sounds like HPPD to me.

try not to take it too seriously,
problem solved.



well, you are taking obscure pharmaceuticals.

Have you tried meditating in your hyper-state?

That is so awesome but unnerving to say the least.
I think you should go to an Ayahuasca ceremony, talk to an experienced curandero. I've experienced that they are very good at helping one through a tripping crisis..

I agree with the above. Part of it sounds amazing, especially if you can being to understand and meditate in the spirit world. However, definitely scary.. and overwhelming. I would also.recommend a good shaman and some aya ceremonies(careful when ur taking the drugs) I remember in 'other' worlds the doc, the main guy feels like he goes scitzofrenic and the shaman works with it and brings him back. Try not to let it scare you but seek some help from those that truly understand that realm. Good luck

I do not think you should take more psychedelics, I disagree with the recommendations above.

I agree with what house said, he had first hand trouble with dmt after stopping using it so his opinion is very relevant I think. Try not to take the experience too seriously, in a similar way that you would take a nightmare, which even if is very strong, you still know deep down that life goes on and that you shouldnt be over-bothered with it.

Are you exercising and eating healthy? It might sound silly but it does make all the difference in the world in incorporating your experiences back to normal life.

By the way, after 3 nights no sleep its obvious you are "losing your mind", anybody would, lack of sleep can create some serious disturbances regardless of previous drug use. Please sleep! "They" wont get you forever if you sleep just like it never ever ever happened.

Sleep, exercise, eat well, study, dedicate to other things, try not to give too much importance to the experiences. Do not take other drugs.

Good luck!

What if he is just having genuine psychological problems and you are advising him in a way that can just feed the delusions and worsen the problems?

Way to go for judging me

So let me get this straight, you are saying that delusions dont exist at all, ever, and that all the times that someone claims contact with spirits, it is literally true?

My point is that you seem to jump into conclusions with so much certainty by just reading someone's words on a post without realizing that you may be interpreting it wrong and that your own words may have direct negative consequences to someone's life.

Also my point is that, while I do appreciate the fact that when someone has a different subjective experience it doesnt necessarily mean they are having a mental problem, it does happen sometimes. Psychological difficulties do exist, you know, and they need to be carefully addressed. Im not saying it is for sure either way in his case, because I simply dont know, and neither do you, but I think we should be prudent.

If he came here saying: "hey, I've been contacting spirits but its cool Im dealing with it and im able to continue my life, be healthy and fulfill my responsibilities", I would be perfectly fine with it. But thats not the case. He is coming here expressing serious concerns for a condition that prevents him even from sleeping (!!!), that bothers him very much subjectively to the point where he cant continue his life and had to go to a doctor and also care enough to ask us for help. This is sign enough for me that its not a simple issue. If he cant integrate his experiences and be healthy in normal life, regardless of what model you use to explain the experiences, then it is something that deserves big attention and care.

So im bothered that you tell him to "do nothing", and talk with an absolute certainty that you know what is happening. This is very troublesome attitude in many levels. Please think a bit more about your own words.

Since i started using dmt every time i wake upp at night i´m in sub breakthrough land, tryptamin visions with every object looking multiplied etc...

Usually i´m just in the need to take a piss and sometimes it can be frustrating trying to navigate around tripping balls.

How do you know? You keep judging me over and over, why such a confrontational attitude? Its not me vs you, this is not a competition. Im genuinely concerned by our fellow member here and trying to help him out.



Is anybody here saying he is not ultimately strong enough to deal with it? Fact is, he came to the forum asking for feedback/help, im giving him my perspective to hopefully getting him to deal better with the experience. Why would he ask for help here, and go to a doctor and take medication if it was all fine?



Why did he go to a doctor ? What is 'power'? How do you know what can and cant help him? And why do you equate me with a certain model of modern science, if im personally saying that it doesnt matter how you itnerpreted the experience, as long as he is integrating it and being healthy in his life.



Maybe you know something we dont but he didnt ask anything in his post about 'people with identical experiences', he rather asked generally what we all think



No, you're wrong, I know first hand that there are several different ways that health professionals can treat you which are not just drown in medication and lock him up. There are reasonable conscious health professionals, you know?

BTW, eranik, here's another tip: You could try contacting someone of the likes of Charles Grob or Rick Strassman to ask if they know if any good open minded health professionals in your area, or if they can give any feedback. They are busy people but who knows, they might answer you (I've already contacted charles grob before for other issues and he did write back)




Is it really appreciated? I read your words as very condescending to me... Please be respectful to me as you would like to be respected too.

Hey Eranik I think you should stay away from psychedelics for a good time.
And another advice would be to watch out for this fwaggle dude. He sounds like he doesn't know jack what he's talking about.
Listen to him and you might end up locked in a place you don't want to be in against your will.

Yes maybe you're a real shaman, but maybe you're just loosing your mind.
Don't take any chances now. Give it some time, then decide what to do.

I tend to agree with Endlessness here; Im also a little perturbed that a doctor would prescribe multiple anti-psychotics for this predicament which is clearly not a psychotic disorder.

May I ask which meds and dosages you are on?

I think for the symptoms you describe I would suggest clonazepam 2mg to be taken 45 minutes before bedtime-this should allow your anticipatory anxiety to ease and would allow you more easily to say 'Right,ok, I WILL come along with you entities and see what happens'. I doubt this will render you psychotic, or 'lost' forever. With proper 'insanity' one is not given any choice in the matter.

And as Endlessness said, keep away from the pyschedelics, including weed should you participate, for a time.

^^seems a little odd this reply.

Any way, upon reading endless' response I'd like him and apologies for jumping out with what was a very unthought out reply to what was essentially a serious request for guidance. It's easy to get caught up in the fantasy of things from behind a screen, but these things should not be take lightly.


( I'm not saying other world are fantasy or a good shaman couldn't help. But the truth is I know very little, and am.not in a position to give advice. )

Hi Eranik, seeing as you went to see a Psychiatrist - maybe you could look for a depth/jungian/transpersonal psychologist/psychotherapist to get a different professional perspective on the things you've been experiencing?

Hope it all works out well for you,

drob