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Hiiiiigh folks,
SWIM has read about DMT comming in several forms. DMT salt, fumerate, freebase..etc
SWIM has understood each form of DMT seemed to have different qualities in terms of solvent solubility, moleculair stability, potency, nature of effect and administration routes.
In this Topic SWIM would like to list all known forms of DMT and their characteristic properties.
As of yet he's come across DMT-Citrate, DMT-fumarate, DMT-salt, and DMT-freebase.
SWIM has also heard of 5-OH-DMT(Bufotenin) is converted to it's Calcium form 5-Cao-DMT ( allthough this appears to be debatable )
and wondered if Calcium forms of NN, DMT also exist. He's read of Fluor forms of DMT and many more forms.
Can anySWIY here provide such information?
A list of all DMT-forms and their characteristic properties would be very usefull indeed.
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dmt fumarate, citric, acetate and so one are salts of dmt, their potency are equal to freebase dmt for the same amount of moles. I guess any acid with a double bounded oxygen atom could form a salt with dmt (oxalic, sulfuric, fluorosulfuric, phosphoric, chromic, formic, lactic, tartaric and gluconic acid for instance should bind with dmt freebase) but i'm not sure since i'm not a chemist. To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.
- William Blake
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Kalt und Heiß, Schwarz und Rot, Kürper und Geist, Liebe und Chaos
 
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SKA wrote:A list of all DMT-forms and their characteristic properties would be very usefull indeed. Good luck trying to list all the salts of dmt, they are probably as many as the traditional acids out there, which is thousands if not millions! And there are no calcium forms of dmt, neither fluoro forms. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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Well this wiki is an attempt at compiling the knowledge we have on the most important forms. As inf said, there is a huge amount of potential salt forms of dmt, but unless some of them are specially interesting for some reason (solubility, shelf-life, absorption and bio-availability, etc), we couldnt have information on all of them. If you do some tests yourself, be sure to document it well, post in a thread and then add to the wiki 
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analytical chemist
 
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dmt laurate (add dmt freebase to heated coconut oil) spice soap, anyone? "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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Posts: 664 Joined: 07-Sep-2010 Last visit: 14-Nov-2016 Location: europe
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dmt cyanide and the sticky dmt isothiocyanide?  almost every acid can bound DMT sparkling water+dmt = dmt carbonate? lol try your own fizzy ayahuasca Tz'is aná
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