My buddy and I ordered 112g of some red vine from Botanical Dimensions (Terence McKenna's ethnobotanical garden, now run by his partner in crime, Kat) and boiled up 60g in a tea.

The taste wasn't bad at all, though the sludge at the bottom was extremely bitter.

Took about an hour and a half to seriously feel the effects (only about a 30g dose each), and then we started smoking spice.

What started as just taking a hit or two turned into six or seven sessions to Shpongle (Ineffable Mysteries From Shpongleland). Every time, I felt like the ride was slowed down. Every time it took me at least a minute to realize I was gone. I have never seen a superimposed image of my trip when opening my eyes, but every time, I felt the need to open my eyes to verify that I was tripping, and every time I saw the faint glow of what was happening behind closed eyelids.

This was our first pharmahuasca experiment, and I definitely got the feeling that it was a smoother, more relaxed trip. Definitely need to start experiencing with higher doses of the red vine, though it seems incredibly potent from what we've tried.

Sounds cool..I really like red vine..I wouldnt call that pharmahuasca though..ayahusca is ayahuasca..you drank vine..thats ayahuasca.

I've taken to smoking spice with ayahuasca more often than including it in the brew. It's certainly a very interesting experience. I can just load 30mg in my pipe and that will last me sufficently up to 3-4 hours and it's always very deep and enlightening.

I'm looking forward to working with red quite soon as so far I have only worked with white.

Oops my mistake =/

Ayahuasca and smoking spice gets five thumbs up in my book!