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Electric.Sight
#1 Posted : 9/18/2010 10:50:36 PM
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This should be in philosophy but I can't post it there, so I will attempt to relate it to DMT.

In my belief system, we all share an electromagnetic field which connects us together.
Brains have input and output sources, and are flowing through each and everyone of us all the time. This model allows telepathy to be possible.
If I am standing next to a man, there's likely a chance we will be sharing similar thoughts about each other, maybe we are reading each others minds without knowing it?
If we could concentrate on brainwave output sources, perhaps we can link onto this source and learn to read it?

If a person and me are beside each other, and we are actually projecting an electromagnetic field, as well as absorbing one, maybe in time we can learn to decode these waves into human thought processes.

Our brain does operate on electricity, which is electromagnetic energy. Electricity tends to be very wild, and is likely not confined within the human body.
We must be discharging some of this energy back into the universe.

Ever notice how if one is tripping with others on the same dose+substance there's a high probability of sharing similar experiences?
Ever have experiences where one communicates successfully to other trippers without speaking a single word?

I believe DMT (and other psychs) destroy the ego enough to get us in touch with the direct source of this energy.
We become more perceptive to peoples input and output brainwaves, and the energy creating them.
I think if we connect to this energy, we're connecting to the person who it's outputted from.

Picture this; electromagnetic energy is a giant web or net of connections.
Each lifeform represents a source for this energy to flow through and connect to.
Life manipulates this energy into brainwaves and in turn sends signals back out.
If other life became perceptive to this process, and realize our brainwaves are being shared by all,
then it's all a matter of decoding them into something we can understand.

I also think this energy is actually the "soul" but that's another topic!Razz

These are only my beliefs on the subject, how do you feel?
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#2 Posted : 9/18/2010 10:58:51 PM

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I totally agree.

I see the problem coming in with trying to figure it out as most everyone lies to everyone else. You never "know" what the other is thinking, therefore it's impossible to gauge telepathy w/o some Sci-Fi answer. I have noticed while on mushrooms/DXM there is a distinct "knowledge" of the mind and IMO these substances help free the mind, as you said, from the ego.
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#3 Posted : 9/18/2010 11:05:07 PM
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Kevyn The Khem wrote:
I totally agree.

I see the problem coming in with trying to figure it out as most everyone lies to everyone else. You never "know" what the other is thinking, therefore it's impossible to gauge telepathy w/o some Sci-Fi answer. I have noticed while on mushrooms/DXM there is a distinct "knowledge" of the mind and IMO these substances help free the mind, as you said, from the ego.


Yes this is nearly impossible to prove at this point in our lives.
These beliefs are based on what "feels" right for me. Idea's must start somewhere!Very happy
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#4 Posted : 9/19/2010 2:39:17 AM
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I agree very much. I don't know about the exact mechanism you mention, but I do think it's possible for our minds to develop a sort of direct connection with another mind, especially with the use of a psych. I think psyches dismantle our ego's own constructions of self, returning us to a much more "raw", basic form of being, which I could easily see as being more compatible with telepathy. It's as if our normal state of mind comes with all sorts of filters and perks to make things seem simple (think GUI, like an Operating System)....and the more "raw" state of mind brought on by a psychedelic resembles a more basic, unrefined, unfiltered machine-language (ie more like DOS, which can be overwhelming for those used to operating strictly behind the GUI). Make sense?

Also, I think as we learn more and more about the brain, someday perhaps we'll be able to link our minds up directly with computers, the mind functioning like any other input/output device. This would allow for direct import/export of raw thoughts/percepts, someday maybe even "consciousness" itself. We have a tremendously exciting future ahead of us.

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#5 Posted : 9/19/2010 3:08:51 AM
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DimethylClarity wrote:
I agree very much. I don't know about the exact mechanism you mention, but I do think it's possible for our minds to develop a sort of direct connection with another mind, especially with the use of a psych. I think psyches dismantle our ego's own constructions of self, returning us to a much more "raw", basic form of being, which I could easily see as being more compatible with telepathy. It's as if our normal state of mind comes with all sorts of filters and perks to make things seem simple (think GUI, like an Operating System)....and the more "raw" state of mind brought on by a psychedelic resembles a more basic, unrefined, unfiltered machine-language (ie more like DOS, which can be overwhelming for those used to operating strictly behind the GUI). Make sense?

Yeah I see a lot of comparison between a brain and a computer as well. I relate taking a drug to running software on a computer, it can alter the way the computer operates completely. The one thing I'd argue is I believe our normal state is less filtered than a psychedelic state, allowing more junk to pass through. The psychedelic state isn't otherworldly IMO, it's extremely "this-worldly", only with new perception. I would say this holds true to DMT as well.
DimethylClarity wrote:
Also, I think as we learn more and more about the brain, someday perhaps we'll be able to link our minds up directly with computers, the mind functioning like any other input/output device. This would allow for direct import/export of raw thoughts/percepts, someday maybe even "consciousness" itself. We have a tremendously exciting future ahead of us.
This is an interesting concept, there are computer hackers, why not brain hackers as well?
Perhaps one day we can connect to optical regions of the brain and display what we're actually seeing!
I can see many answers coming from something like this.
Of course we wouldn't stop there, once the human brain is decoded who knows what could be accomplished?
I think this will be the next generation of technological evolution.
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#6 Posted : 9/19/2010 5:12:58 PM

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Brain hacking comes in many varieties. From simple hypnotism to invocation of and possession by thoughtforms/deities.

Chaos Magick and Madhyamaka offering an interesting perspective/means buffet with regard to brain hacking.
 
 
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