NOTE: the otherworld is VERY real to me. if you have a separate opinion, you're entitled to it, but please don't muck up my thread trying to disprove me.

I'm posting this here in hopes that somebody else can relate to my experiences.

I have experimented a lot in my day. When I first discovered how complimentary spice was to my lifestyle diet, I partook heavily.

When I first begun exploring it, my life was in a very bad place. I was losing hope and I felt as if my soul was dying. Amazingly enough, every time I went to that 3d toke place, I was greeted by these beautiful beings of LIGHT and LOVE. They had no humanlike or physical features. Their appearance to me was vague and they incarnated as a massive whirlwind of intentionally directed ENERGY... they flowed like water. They were so pure, they were like angelic forms and every time I went there, they were waiting to greet me. They taught me many things... among those things was how to feel and express LOVE once again...

My experimentation stopped abruptly and I grounded myself in the physical reality again to begin making some very necessary changes in my life. I took everything my experiences taught me and worked to integrate it into my life... and I did a 180*. I'm nowhere close to my highest ambitions these days but I got myself out of that deep dark pit of despair and disconnectedness.

Anyway, fast forward 4 months later... and I came across the spice in my life once again. I enthusiastically prepared myself to go back home and to check in with my spiritual friends... but I found that no matter how far out i blasted myself, I hardly saw them at all. I saw them flitting by here and there but no longer did I have the personal experiences i used to share with them. This saddened and confused me. Even more so as I continued to explore further and began coming across some very unsavory beings who had begun to pay attention to my presence there.

When I first encountered them, I did not know what to make of them. They did not move with the beautiful and harmonious grace of the beings I described before. They moved like insects and had a very piercing presence. The way they moved and flitted about was the most remarkable thing in contrast to the other entities I was used to seeing. Their movements were very JERKY as if they were lagging in an online game. Their shapes were full of angles, as if they inhabited a lower extraspacial dimension. I have concluded that they are lower vibration beings compared to the angels I was used to.

At first I was very concerned... what if somehow, I was spiritually off my path? why else would I be attracting such negative energies? I eventually concluded that my spirituality was more aligned than ever and I was thinking under a false pretense - I had an idea of what spice experiences were like fom me from when I first began experimenting with it. But I have since concluded that the reason the powerful beings of LOVE and LIGHT disappeared on me was because I no longer needed their services. They were there to help me through that dark period of my life and looking back... They made all the difference in the world to me, spiritually. I was in a very negative space like you wouldn't believe and if that is what determines the kind of experience we have, then why would I be immune to bad experiences? I'm thankful every moment I remember what those divine energies have done for me and I will repay their services with my life's work....

Anyway! Has anybody else noticed these contrasts? I'd be happy to elaborate or answer any questions.

i have noticed a polarity in everything that exists. When your attention is drawn to any dimension of something, the other dimensions become the opposite of what appears to be present, while they are all still present at the same time. It is the way in wich they are present and how this relates with the nature of your own presence at the time, that causes this view. Look at it like a large room with many angles in wich you wander around with only a small candle, so that there are always some dark corners you don't see, but wich corners are the dark ones depends on your position in the room and where you have put the candle.

that sounds very insightful

I agree it's as real as anything. This 'consensus trance' reality is just a thin slice through all of hyperdimensional reality. It doesn't mean we're crazy, it means reality is much bigger and more complex than in the wildest fantasies.

It's frustrating, you just can't explain how real it is to someone who's never been to hyperspace... and then they start explaining to you what it is. Aargh! Witnesses are taken seriously in trials, why not here?



Yes: that's consistent with my own experiences: somehow you always get what you need whether you realize it at the time or not. It seems they are aware of our actions and developments in our consensus-trance life and act upon it. I see the materialists jump up and scream: 'Ha, you see, it's all internal subconscious projection after all!' - there we go again... they have no idea.
How far are we willing to go, accepting the entities as 100% real, not only during the trance but also in baseline life.
Reminds me of the guy who encapsulated an Elf inside his head in hyperspace. This entity helped him through his crisis during several days and was released in a session later on. Sounds crazy but I take it seriously!

The spirit realm is impossible to 'doubt' once you've encountered it ..! Just try to make it a 'concept' that works for you. It's many many entities like a hoard of bees, or just one that's present - like the Great Spirit. What ever heirarchy and 'purpose' you want for them, give it to them.

The imagination is a virtue and an unexploited function - a precious communicative ability too. How this ability aids or 'creates' our connectedness with the spirits should not be shunned - it IS the right brains ability to speak in images, the left brain relies on words...

The easiest explanation for what entities appear might be "set and setting" - Where ever you smoke, it's your mind-set (time of day esp.!)

Our guardians, ... our angels ... our leeching energy elves ... the ninos, the insects ... what ever form they appear in - they ought to be as awed as we are meeting them ! I get a huge boost of incarnated confidence realizing they are there ... and we are here ! They get excited too ! .. Woo Hooo ! But lucky us - we have such miraculous flesh ! and .. AND we have a spirit-plane to tap into .. we have BOTH !