Hi guys,

SWIM did a fair amount of mushroom growing the past year, and found that trips from multispore fruits were consistently more vibrant, and had more depth, than those from his isolate attempts. Of course, a year isn't really that long to be in this hobby, so maybe SWIM never managed to narrow down a good isolate; but he wonders if there's something about the genetic diversity of ms grows that tends to make them a better tool for the spiritual explorer (more diversity = more expansion?). Very theoretical, indeed, but SWIM just gets the feeling that isolating strains is exactly the way the left-brained, non-spiritualized, westerner would approach growing, and hence it seems to follow that mushrooms of this kind would be the result of their maker. SWIM's only speculating here, but he wonders if we're on the road to doing to mushrooms something sort of like what we've done to tobacco, for example. It just seems that the grower who focuses almost solely on the scientific side of things in order to exploit the mushroom as some kind of toy would inevitably lose the entheogenic element in return.. and since he probably wasn't too aware of it to begin with, he likely wouldn't care about or even notice such a loss. Of course, there will be many exceptions, SWIM's just trying to draw a general picture here.

So, to say it again in fewer words, SWIM thinks that if we try to tailor a being to the qualities of our specific choosing, that we run the risk of something getting lost.. something we probably didn't even know was there (since we wouldn't clone/isolate for qualities we don't even notice). He figures that if we're not going to work with the mushroom, but rather for ourselves, that we should just leave it where it came to be what it is- in nature.

Note, that SWIM isn't talking about potency here, he's talking about depth of experience. He knows that ms fruits can be impotent. He's talking about having all the colors of the rainbow instead of just one or two.

Also note that SWIM isn't saying science is the enemy here. He just thinks all things should be kept in check, and balanced as a cohesive part among a greater whole. Of course, SWIM could be highly delusional, so he asks you Nexus- what do you think?

perhaps its a valid speculation, but the "depth" of the experience is a subjective opinion. personally, i just got into growing shrooms recently, so i can't say about the difference between the isolates and the multispores. maybe you're right, maybe not. but regardless of what it is, in the grand scheme, the inevitable will happen eventually. The fittest will survive, and us humans are perhaps in a major way, contributing to the domination of the fittest strains..which could even be a "goal." There's no telling; but you propose a worthy concern if multispore does indeed result in deeper experiences.

Also, you must consider the fact that shrooms have been grown for a long while now. that means that many of the spores you get from vendors, could very likely be some sort of an "isolate", because people tend to clone the best specimens, and distribute their spores to vendors and friends, eventually spreading them. So what you were culturing as a "multispore" could still be some sort of a distant "isolate," in which case your speculation could've been triggered by a placebo...but we never know

i would love to hear other experienced growers' opinion on this, as this seems like something worth investigating further

Try running some double blind studies with friends and use a questionnaire that doesn't indicate the purpose.

Multispore mushrooms always give trips that enforce ideas and notions of racial hate. Basically I come out more racist when I eat multispores. This never happens with isolates. Go figure.