Hello everyone,

This is my first post ,so im not too sure as too whatimdoing so please excuse me if i,ve got the wrong idea here ,

If someone in my position had access to plants containing DMT ,among other alkaloids, and wanted to extract dmt , is their chance that their extraction would bringout all the other alkaloids? this question excludes "mytsery spice" as im sure that would be extractedin many cases .The reason the question is asked is that all the info on the site is relationg to Hostilis extraction ,and this person will be extracting from acacia's . . .which is why id like to know if the final product will include other things in the bark . I would like pure N,N DMT , and like to stay away from 5meo ,and bufotenin.

SO: my question is , does the standard extraction method extract purely N,N DMT

Thank you

Most techs will extract both DMT and 5-MeO-DMT.

5-MeO-DMT has an XLogP3 of 1.5 and is more polar that DMT with an XLogP3 of 2.5, so a super non-polar solvent like heptane will extract less 5-MeO-DMT and more DMT.

Also the pKa of 5-MeO-DMT is 9.3. The pKa of DMT is 8.6. That means 5-MeO-DMT is freebased at a higher pH. This allows you to better separate them.

If you do an A/B and use heptane as the non-polar solvent, and freebase at pH 7.6, and extract 10 times with heptane, you'll get most of the DMT and nearly no 5-MeO-DMT. Then you adjust the pH to 10 or so and then extract the 5-MeO-DMT with d-limonene or xylene or DCM.

That will separate them very well, but not their N-Oxides. But heptane will not dissolve any N-Oxides, so the heptane will be virtually free of 5-MeO-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT N-oxide if you do the above and freebase the DMT at 7.6.

At pH 7.6 only 10% of the DMT is freebased at any given time. But once you extract it into the heptane, that changes everything and more than 10% gets freebased. If you extract 10 times, you get pretty much all the DMT.

Note that pH adjustments might be needed depending on what else is present in the mix. The pKa is for isolated alkaloids, not a mix of compounds, so it needs to be used as a general guide only, meaning you might need to use a higher pH than 7.6 in some cases.

Ok cool man ,awesome seeing a fellow south African in here ,or at least ex south African.

Who exactly is phlux, and how would i go about asking him?
And also , im a bit confused about how i move up to being a real member ? i dont have to do any ine hting in particular ,do i?

Does anyone know if Hostilis grows in south africa ? alot of the plants in the same subfamily as it do ( eg, acacias)
And what are some defining features to look out for ?

Thanx guys

Heptane works exclusively with N,N DMT ? And how readily available is that?

Ok thanks , i need to get properly clued up on extraction before i ask more questions.

Hmmm, and what are your views on the saftey and affect of bufo and 5-meo in realaion to N,N DMT ?

And is info this in-depth in the wiki, or any of the teks?