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oral doses mixed in juice "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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I haven't tried this but my understanding, which may well be wrong, is that its highly variable from one person to the next and the type of harmala alkaloid used also effects the outcome. I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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the harmalas are a mixture or harmine and harmaline extracted from syrian rue "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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Yea, it depends person to person and the with admin technique. With fasting and controlled admin, some can have breakthroughs at very low doses. ThreadI can't say with much conviction what a heavy dose it for me, as I am not yet prepared for a 4 hour residency in hyperspace. 55mg fumarate puts me at a maximum sub-breakthrough level. I know a full blown breakthrough dose isn't too much higher. Over 200mg just seems overkill. It has been mentioned that aya dosages contain around 50mg, so it really all comes down to technique.
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When I took 200mg of rue extract together with 100mg DMT-Fumarate both mixed in the same glass of orange juice it gave me a way too heavy journey. Much too much, it was really overwhelming! So because of that I voted 75-100mg as too much. For my next journey I will take 200mg THH-Hcl together with 50mg DMT-Fumarate. Kind regards, The Traveler
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My typical starter dose was 50mg DMT jungle fumerate. This concerns working with rue, as with THH or vine I can quite happily go up to 80mg and still not feel to challenged or maybe more correctly guided is a better term. I'll be doing a rue extraction soon where I'll be seperating the harmine and harmaline, mainly to get rid of the cloudy fog the excess of harmaline brings and this is going to be my main tool for oral DMT for the sake of oral DMT. My vine work for the near future will be just that. Vine work 
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the other night me and my girlfriend took 170 mg doses in capsules, it was a perfect dose for us that night , i didn't mix the harmalas and the dmt up though so the harmalas were on one side of the capsule and the dmt on the other, i poked a hole in each end of the capsule. this has been the first time Ive tryed dmt fumerate and i was very pleased with it. ive had really strong trips on 80 mg of dmt freebase taken orally and other times it has been weak at that dose. thanks for the votes guys. with more votes we will all be able to better gauge whats going to happen to somone when we give them a dose . much love and respect. "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J. Krishnamurti ~ The Dissolution of the Order of the Star. 1929http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjAzA753sg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E
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RayOfLight wrote:thanks for the votes guys. with more votes we will all be able to better gauge whats going to happen to somone when we give them a dose .
From what I can see, the poll shows that you won't be able to gauge what's going to happen to someone when you give them a dose  . There's a huge gap between what's considered strong doses, and the number of people on either end of the spectrum are nearly identical (6:4, which at the moment could very well have been 5:5 or 4:6).
Assuming the difference is from bioavailability, I'm wondering what the cause could be?Disclaimer: Everything I say is the truth.
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I am happy I stumbled across this. Gives a good starting point for one to consider how much is too much for a DMT fumerate dose. Thanks to those who created this so long ago! "We speak of Time and Mind, which do not easily yield to catagories. We separate past and future and find that Time is an amalgam of both. We separate good and evil and find that Mind is an amalgam of both. To understand, we must grasp the whole." -Isaac Asimov
"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger." -Buddha
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fear's path, and only I will remain." -Paul Atreides, while being tested with the Gom Jabbar by the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
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who is dosing over 250mg of dmt orally? and... how?!?  My wind instrument is the bong
CHANGA IN THE BONGA!
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veni, vidi, spici
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Parshvik Chintan wrote:who is dosing over 250mg of dmt orally? and... how?!? me, I put it in a glass and drink it  INHALE, SURVIVE, ADAPT it's all in your mind, but what's your mind??? fool of the year
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