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"I've wished for more open people, coming up to me, wanting to talk" a friend says after a couple of days at a hippie festival. I answer, that it is always up to him, to send the right signals, to project a certain vibe back, to be in tune. In tune with life. Our lifes are full of expectations, wants and needs. We want this, we want that...maybe because we have this drive to find a closer relationship to life itself: To finally be in the "flow", to make things work..to be on the "bright side of life". Some spiritual teachings say: "You have to search within you, to find love". I would say that this is true...but a little to simple. There is no real world application for this wisdom. All you can see are people who are getting love from other people and you keep thinking to yourself "If i just had their love!". And its true: It would help. And that is the whole point, the dilemma of this thread. So it was the last day of the festival. I decided to eat a gram of mushrooms. I ended up at a beautiful cafe, full of beautiful people listening to a sitar concert, tripping out in tent of the cafe...what did i feel? Pureness. Freedom. People without loads of ego crap, people functioning as real human beeings. I couldn't help but smile. I locked on to people and smiled and one older hippie woman smiled back and touched me on my forearm while passing by. Find love withing yourself? I found it in the outer world and it changed me for the better. So do you have to search on the outside to find happiness? No. Its more about appreciation and awakenment. The more you are awake, the easier it is to see and appreciate the love around you. The more you are asleep, the more obvious love you need to help you wake up! To accept that there are authentic human beeings you can connect with makes you question your miserable state of mind... I know that i need more of this. The pure love of the universe during psychedelic experiences does help. But we live in a 3D world....i think the mushroom can help to bring out the appreciation for others and helps to purify your soul at the same time...bringing you in touch with the love reality. Helping others to wake up...you can still touch even if you are still drownsy. So ...keeep the love in your heart, use it to feed your spiritual self beyond the ego..breakthrough to a self-feeding circle of positivness which can't be stopped. That's what i want to do. And beautiful people can help, even if you don't speak to them. Even if they won't come up to you like my friend wished for. They still facilitate positive change. That's why they're beautiful...and that's why you are.
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We don't need beautiful people, we need people freed from negativity. elusive illusion
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These are inspiring words obliguhl. Mr_DMT wrote:We don't need beautiful people, we need people freed from negativity. Those who are freed from negativity are beautiful.
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we need people who are awake, not apathetic or oblivious. our future as a species depends on it. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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benzyme wrote:we need people who are awake, not apathetic or oblivious. our future as a species depends on it. even better elusive illusion
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Mr_DMT wrote:We don't need beautiful people, we need people freed from negativity. If everybody would accept the negativity in people...even negative people would become beautiful. It's about accepting each facet within us. Needing people to be this or that isn't going with the flow...
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We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive. "Be the change you wish to see in the world" -Close your eyes, See the light, and feel the sunshine in the shade
~All views, ideas and opinions of this user are strictly fictional and in no way represent an act done in reality.
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hyperspacing wrote:We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" if only it were that easy. people are still going to go about their lives not realizing what they allow others with power to do to their world, or maybe they just don't care because of their short-sightedness. i can do my part, and i do.. but it's insignificant in the grand scheme "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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This is why beauty, elegance and good taste are the the things I see as needing to be taken of the highest reguard...mythology, metaphore and poetry are the backbone of communication in relation to those things that we never quite find the words to say..If we could remember that and believe it each and everytime we open our mouths, then we will gain the ears to listen to what our eyes and our hearts have always seen. Long live the unwoke.
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benzyme wrote:hyperspacing wrote:We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" if only it were that easy. people are still going to go about their lives not realizing what they allow others with power to do to their world, or maybe they just don't care because of their short-sightedness. i can do my part, and i do.. but it's insignificant in the grand scheme But what is the grand scheme? Should it be any bigger than you and the people in your life that come in contact with you? How far can a ripple of kindness that starts with you really spread? A few people or an infinite amount? Could that ripple someday become a wave? Who knows. As long as you live your life the best you can and share it with as many people as possible does the rest really matter? -Close your eyes, See the light, and feel the sunshine in the shade
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:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: let's choose LIGHT. elusive illusion
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Mr_DMT wrote: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: let's choose LIGHT. Count me in :idea: -Close your eyes, See the light, and feel the sunshine in the shade
~All views, ideas and opinions of this user are strictly fictional and in no way represent an act done in reality.
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hyperspacing wrote:benzyme wrote:hyperspacing wrote:We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" if only it were that easy. people are still going to go about their lives not realizing what they allow others with power to do to their world, or maybe they just don't care because of their short-sightedness. i can do my part, and i do.. but it's insignificant in the grand scheme But what is the grand scheme? Should it be any bigger than you and the people in your life that come in contact with you? How far can a ripple of kindness that starts with you really spread? A few people or an infinite amount? Could that ripple someday become a wave? Who knows. As long as you live your life the best you can and share it with as many people as possible does the rest really matter? i guess it doesn't, on a personal level (though it does irk me). the choices people make affects the whole, like people who continue to support irresponsible businesses; their lack of regard for the surroundings is going to cost everyone dearly. of course you have naysayers who'll refute this until blue in the face, but the repercussions are becoming more and more obvious. i'm glad it's gotten trendy to go green, but this is something that should've been implemented during the oil crisis in the 70's. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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obliguhl wrote: So ...keeep the love in your heart, use it to feed your spiritual self beyond the ego..breakthrough to a self-feeding circle of positivness which can't be stopped. That's what i want to do.
And beautiful people can help, even if you don't speak to them. Even if they won't come up to you like my friend wished for. They still facilitate positive change. That's why they're beautiful...and that's why you are.
Gorgeous, obliguhl, hope you keep it up. Sounds like a great festival you went to, too. "...I didn't know that Cheshire cats always grinned; in fact, I didn't know that cats could grin..." - Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
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Obliguhl Beautifully said. If we radiate positivity and compassion it will cause a ripple affect... We only need to try and change ourselves... Much Peace and Compassion
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hyperspacing wrote:We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" I agree completely with this. I wouldn't look outwards for love, for what if you are lone (and aren't we all)? You have to love yourself before you can truly love anything, or anybody, else. Kindness helps, it gives us hope, but it is not the solution. We have everything we NEED. It's IN us. "It made me do it." I am not real.
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Spira wrote:hyperspacing wrote:We NEED nothing from "other people" just in ourselves and the rest will fall into place. You can't try to change others, you can only show what you wish to receive.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" I agree completely with this. I wouldn't look outwards for love, for what if you are lone (and aren't we all)? You have to love yourself before you can truly love anything, or anybody, else. Kindness helps, it gives us hope, but it is not the solution. We have everything we NEED. It's IN us. This is a view I held for a very long time, both before and after entheogens. You are right in saying we don't need anything from other people. This in no way means we cannot wish and desire deeper and more meaningful relationships with each other. Yes, we are all alone, but only to a certain extent. Huxley made the valid statement that all language and forms of expression are merely shadows of what we ourselves experience. We can never fully share with each other, and we are alone in this sense. By the very nature of our interests, most members here are so called loners in our day to day lives. Enter the Nexus. This is a community of like minded people pushing the envelope in a number of aspects. I, for one, know I have grown more through the Nexus in the topics concerned here than I ever would have alone. Without a doubt. That is the beauty of human collaboration. Yes, we as humans can survive on our own, but is merely surviving enough? It doesn't take much to look around and see what humans working together can accomplish. We have been given a gift, both in our minds and the substances we use to explore them with. The beauty of this gift is its ability to spread with no diminishing effect. Can one stumble upon "truth" and walk the path of enlightenment alone? Absolutely, but where does it end? I have received a gift, and I intend to share it. I aim not to push it on anyone who is not welcoming, but I will not sit in my own world and hoard it to myself. Joy multiplies, love multiplies, beauty multiplies. It's all in the sharing.
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Eden wrote:
This is a view I held for a very long time, both before and after entheogens. You are right in saying we don't need anything from other people. This in no way means we cannot wish and desire deeper and more meaningful relationships with each other.
Well, the title of your thread is we need beau.. Eden wrote: Yes, we are all alone, but only to a certain extent. Huxley made the valid statement that all language and forms of expression are merely shadows of what we ourselves experience. We can never fully share with each other, and we are alone in this sense. By the very nature of our interests, most members here are so called loners in our day to day lives. Enter the Nexus.
Alone to a certain extent?? Eden wrote: This is a community of like minded people pushing the envelope in a number of aspects. I, for one, know I have grown more through the Nexus in the topics concerned here than I ever would have alone. Without a doubt. That is the beauty of human collaboration. Yes, we as humans can survive on our own, but is merely surviving enough?
Surviving? I'm saying that the path to enlightenment, divination, is inside each and everyone one of us -- is that enough? Eden wrote: It doesn't take much to look around and see what humans working together can accomplish. We have been given a gift, both in our minds and the substances we use to explore them with. The beauty of this gift is its ability to spread with no diminishing effect. Can one stumble upon "truth" and walk the path of enlightenment alone? Absolutely, but where does it end? I have received a gift, and I intend to share it. I aim not to push it on anyone who is not welcoming, but I will not sit in my own world and hoard it to myself.
"...but where does it end?" What are you referring to that 'ends?' Truth? The Path? Enlightenment? "It made me do it." I am not real.
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Need is born out a desire for a certain goal. If we desire progression in the depth of our species, yes, these are the things some here feel we need. This is not my thread and there is no need to argue semantics. There is no need to argue anything, this is a discussion, not a debate. I am simply sharing my perspective, not attacking yours.
In my own path of enlightenment, sharing is an absolute necessity as an expression of my thanks and my desire to do good. This may not be for you, but don't be so quick to claim it as useless for others.
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We need people to wake up to their responsibilities to make this world a much more peacefull, just, clean, social and healthy place. This awareness of responsibility towards oneself, one another and the enviroment is called Love or Care. In the compassion, one-ness and freedom of that awareness every human being is beautyfull.
People need to massively snap out of their miserable state of apathy. Complete, synchronised, collective loss of ego on a grand scale. Or perhaps a series of more gentile such grand scale, collective ego losses.
Only a psychological change of that magnitude could inspire a REAL big change in ourselves and so in our lifestyles and control structures. Only the big question remains;
How?
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