This is a chemical which doesn't require a whole lot to make its point. I think a lot of people experience it for the first time, get rocked harder than anything they've ever dreamed possible, and just ASSUME it must be because they went way over the line with the dosage. The experience itself is just over the line; there's no shame in getting rocked by it. But outlandish claims to impossible doses only create dangerous misconceptions. This is what many of us seek to avoid, for the safety of all who follow.

I apologize for the snappy post, and I didn't mean to imply you were lying.

I have nothing but empathy for your rough experience - I've had many of my own, believe me. It's just when you came back and assigned a number to it (an arbitrary but cool sounding number which #1) seems to pop up around here fairly often, and #2) is a complete and utter physical impossibility, IMO), that I just couldn't help but turn on a little bit of the rancor.

In the first place, high doses of DMT just don't lend themselves to physical mobility. I'm an average sized dude with a good constitution and plenty of psychedelics experience, and anything over 30mgs puts me flat on my back for the duration. In the second place, 50mgs of DMT creates a pretty substantial amount of vapor. I have a pretty average lung capacity, and it will take me 3 good sized pulls to polish off that amount. I've done plenty of journeying with a world class endurance athlete who also needs 2-3 hits to clear a dose of this size - so unless you're the Jolly Green Giant, I just don't see you knocking down hits that are literally 10 times the size. Put 2 and 2 together, and I just don't believe what you're saying at all, I'm sorry. I'm not saying you're lying - just that you are way, way off in your guestimations and searching for something to explain your very real existential asskicking.

This is a chemical which doesn't require a whole lot to make its point. I think a lot of people experience it for the first time, get rocked harder than anything they've ever dreamed possible, and just ASSUME it must be because they went way over the line with the dosage. The experience itself is just over the line; there's no shame in getting rocked by it. But outlandish claims to impossible doses only create dangerous misconceptions. This is what many of us seek to avoid, for the safety of all who follow.

Aye and I'd like to figure out how to get more out of less. Today on approximately 10-15 mg (weighed out 20 but didn't have the full amount) I had very light contact with "Hyperspace", distinct and typically strange entities, such as the same old multi-trunked relaxed elephant with dark sunglasses, whose head was attached to a man's body in a black suit. The sunglasses were changing colours, red, pink, neon, all sorts, just beautiful. Of course my intent on that journey was to accompany my friend, rather than the more intense personal or detective work I sometimes attempt. All my friend experienced was "the most beautiful colours, vibrating and shifting into each other", against a grid. No beings.

By the way if you did put a 250 mg pile in The Machine then you must be insane. Now that I have a scale I see I never took more than ~40 mg, which nicely covers my pipe bowl with a layer of sparkling crystals. Trying to figure out that optimal amount which doesn't leave me raped in the veins by multi-tentacled beasts, but still allows for deep contact with these "beings" (or distant parts of myself?) who seem to respond to questioning in the strangest, most humourful, and often insightful ways. The goal for me is to learn how to navigate more successfully and productively in this world.