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#1 Posted : 4/25/2010 9:32:37 PM

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What I find really interesting is that rue is often times burnt and inhaled. We have to remember that traditional peoples do things "traditionaly" and often times forget why they are doing things the way they are doing them. just look at easter for christ sakes! Regardless the pipe and smoking from a pipe was an innovation brought to us after the colonization of the new world ( little known fact), the pre-pipe area used incense, censors, coals, and basic hot boxing rooms or tents so that the smoke of a psychoactive plant could be ingested properly. These practices go on today, because its traditional to do so. Even though it would be more effective and true to the cause if they just used a pipe... but hey "TRADITION!" (said in my best fiddler on the roof impression!

What we are finding now is that the harmalas are even more effective when smoked, with fewer side effects, and in some peoples points of view more benefits. Harmalas ingested via smoke go straight to inhibiting enzymatic reactions in the brain, work very directly as an antidepressant, trance inducer. Large amounts of harmalas on their own create visionary states quite effectively and smoking can allow more into the brain while bypassing the horrible nausea and vomiting that can occur when ingested as a tea or orally ingested extract.
Syrian rue as incense is a traditional practice in many cultures, its not a new idea at all. It is also interesting to posit that perhaps additional plants added to the syrian rue incense could have possibly enhanced any psychoactive effects they might have had... As we are seeing with changa blends the addition of tropane plants like angle trumpet and such are a very ungodly powerful synergy. The tropanes are very old world plants and are traditionally used around the world in incense. The possibility of old world psychoactive plants being used in inhaled syrian rue based incenses would not be out of order in regards to ethnbotanical historical speculation.
It is possible that a sort of DMT-less changa like incense was being used for centuries... who knows. Below it is mentioned that shamans will inhale syrain rue smoke, it is frequently used in magic, and as we are leanring magic is often traditional preformed in altered states.

at any rate...interesting reads here...


I must say this site has a nice amount of info on the subject.... which I nabbed and posted here...

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History:

Syrian rue appears in the ancient literature (Dioscorides) under the name peganon. This name may have been derived from that of Pegasus, the winged horse of ancient mythology that was begotten by Poseidon, the god of the sea, and the dying Medusa. The plant has also been interpreted as the legendary magical plant known as moly.

The seeds, which are used both medicinally and ritually, were imported from Persia to India by the Muslims at an early date. The plant was present in central Europe by the 15th century at the latest and was portrayed by the “fathers of botany”. In the Near East and North Africa, Syrian rue has retained its great significance as ritual incense into the present day.

Syrian rue was a sacred plant in the ancient Orient. The Koran states, “Every root, every leaf of harmel, is watched over by an angel who waits for a person to come in search of healing”. For this reason, it is said that dervishes in Buchara also esteem and ritually utilize harmel seeds.

Syrian rue seeds, in the form of small incense balls (sepetan), are still offered by burning great quantities during Nouruz (New Day), the ancient Iranian and now Islamisized spring and New Year’s festival. The ascending smoke is distributed throughout the entire house to keep away all misfortune. In Persia (Iran, Iraq), the seeds are scattered over glowing coals at weddings to ward off evil spirits and the evil eye. It is said that the smoke is also capable of dispelling epidemic diseases.

In Baluchistan (Pakistan), the seeds are used to neutralize the enchantments of a jin and to banish all evil spirits in general. A person who has fallen under the spell of or has been possessed by a jin is urged to inhale as mush as possible of the smoke rising from the crackling seeds on the charcoals. It is said that such a treatment usually results in a rapid improvement. Harmel is also used as a fumigant in Turkey to counteract the effects of the evil eye.

In North Africa, Syrian rue has been regarded as a magical and medicinal panacea since ancient times. The seeds are used as incense, both alone and in combination with other plants. The seeds are scattered over charcoal to dispel evil spirits. The smoke is inhaled to treat headaches, the consequences of the evil eye, and venereal diseases. In Morocco, an incense of Syrian rue seeds, alum, and olibanum is burned during the wedding night to fan the flames of desire.

In the Himalayas and neighboring regions, shamans use the seeds as magical incense. The shamans of the Hunza, who live in what is now Pakistan, inhale the smoke to enter a clairvoyant trance. The shamans (bitaiyo) then enter into a close, lusty, sexual contact with the divining fairies, who give them important information and the ability to heal.




And Then there is The Lucky Mojo site... with lots of fun stuff!!

ASPAND - ESPAND - ESPHAND - ESFAND
AGAINST THE EVIL EYE:
A ZOROASTRIAN RITE SURVIVING IN MUSLIM NATIONS

Throughout the area once covered by the Persian empire, a type of herb seed called Aspand, Espand, or Esphand is burned on charcoal to rid children of the Evil Eye . A short verse is recited as the smoke is circled around the child's head. Aspand is also used to bring blessings after one has performed a sorrowful rite, such as attending a funeral.

DISTRIBUTION OF THE ASPAND CUSTOM

I live in Sonoma County, an area of Northern California where there are few people of Persian descent. However, i have spoken directly to four people who practice this rite and a fifth person supplied Aspand to her husband to carry to me. A sixth sighting took place on the web. Practitioners i have met so far are all Farsi or Dari speaking and are apparently practicing Muslims. They happen to all have been college educated or the siblings or children of college educated men. Two are from Afghanistan, three from Iran. One additional Aspand user whom i encountered on the web is from Tajikistan and is fluent in English. Aspand is sold in Iranian stores in the San Francisco Bay Area, especially the East Bay town of Fremont, which has a large Farsi / Dari speaking population.

DESCRIPTION OF THE ASPAND RITE FROM AN OUTSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE
(MY PERSPECTIVE, BEFORE I ASKED QUESTIONS)

Aspand seeds are dropped on red-hot charcoal, where they make a popping noise and give off a great deal of fragrant smoke. A five-line rhyming spell is chanted and the smoke is swirled around the heads of children in a circular pattern to protect them from evil. "To Aspand" seems to be the usual verb describing the rite.

VARIANTS IN ASPAND HERBAL PRACTICE

The Afghanis i met used Aspand seed straight. The Tajik web site does not mention adding other ingredients either. However, the Iranians added Frankincense and the leaves of an unknown wild Iranian herb to the Aspand seed (the herb is imported from Iran). The Iranian woman was proud of her excellent recipe for blended Aspand. She also showed me how to chew Frankincense as a breath freshener and spiritual cleanser. Except for the additional elements burned by the Iranians, the rite is essentially identical in all cases.

DESCRIPTION OF THE ASPAND RITE BY PARTICIPANTS

The rite consists of an invocatory prayer to a deceased but historical king of Persia known as Naqshband, while burning Aspand seeds. The word Aspand refers to a class of Zoroastrian Archangels. Both sets of my informants, from two nations, explained to me that Naqshband was not a Muslim but a Zoroastrian and that despite the Muslim conquest of Persia and outlying areas, the spirit of Naqshband is still called upon to destroy the Evil Eye (Bla Band). Here is the spell-prayer, as written out for me in phonetic Dari by the man from Afghanistan:

Aspand bla band
Barakati Shah Naqshband
Jashmi heach jashmi khaish
Jashmi dost wa dooshmani bad andish
Be sosa der hamin atashi taze.

Here is his English translation:

This is Aspand, it banishes the Evil Eye
The blessing of King Naqshband
Eye of nothing, Eye of relatives
Eye of friends, Eye of enemies
Whoever is bad should burn in this glowing fire.

See also the Tajikistan page http://members.tripod.com/~khorasan/Miscellaneous/aspand.html where a transliteration of the same invocation from the Tajik language is spelled this way:

Aspand balla band
Ba haq shah-e-naqshband
Chashm-e-aaish chashm-e-khaysh
Chashm-e-adam-e bad andaysh
Besuzad dar atash-e-taiz

HOW DO PARTICIPANTS BELIEVE THAT THIS RITE WORKS?

Afghani man: "We ask for a blessing. The blessing we ask is that of King Naqshband, because he was the one who taught the use of Aspand. He obtained this knowledge from the Angels of Heaven. He was a holy man. The use of fire is Zoroastrian, not Muslim. It is a very old rite. It is used to remove the Evil Eye from the children, and it is good for anyone. You can Aspand yourself or have someone Aspand for you. My wife does it for me and for the children. I do it for her."

Iranian woman: "This prayer is the blessing of Shah Naqshband, an ancient King who was a follower of Zarathustra. Shah Naqshband got this blessing from the Archangels and taught it to our people. It is very effective when you must deal with bad people or sorrowful things. It removes the Evil Eye and it is a blessing to the spirit. It lightens your burdens. It is very good to Aspand."

Tajik man: At http://members.tripod.com/~khorasan/Miscellaneous/aspand.html the author, "Khorasan," relates the word Aspand to the Tajik / Dari / Farsi / Persian word for Archangel, Amesha Spenta or Amahraspand. The Archangels or Amahraspandan themselves are listed as

Vohu Mano (Vohuman, Good Mind)
Presides over cattle.

Asha Vahishta (Ardwahisht, Highest Asha)
the Amahraspand presiding over Asha and fire.

Khshathra Vairya (Shahrewar, 'Desirable Dominion'Pleased
the Amahraspand presiding over metals.

Spenta Armaiti (Spandarmad, 'Holy Devotion'Pleased
the Amahraspand presiding over the earth.

Haurvatat (Hordad, 'Perfection or Health'Pleased
Presides over water.

There are further notes at the above site describing the Guardian Angels (Fravashis or Frohars) who "manifest the energy of God," and a lengthy list of Angels (Yazads, called Yezidi by some), including the well known Mithra and Ahriman, with their attributes.

The archangels of Zoroastrian belief are generally said by scholars to be Zoroaster's incorporation into his religion of regional Iranian gods and goddesses of the pre-historic period. Thus Spenta Armaiti or Spandermat (also spelled Spandermad or Spendarmaz) was an earth-mother goddess, whose sacred herb was Espand or Esfand.

In the ancient Zoroastrian calendar, the month of Esfand (beginning around February 19) marked the feast of Spendarmat, which was dedicated to the female archangel of earthly and motherly protection, Spenta Armaiti, whose name signifies "Holy Devotion" or "Holy Love." Among modern Iranians, this festival, known as the Esfandgan Feast, is still held on Spandarmaz Day in the month Esfand, the last month of the Iranian calendar. It is a celebration of womankind, and particularly commemorates the care, kindness, and self-sacrifices of motherhood.

The connections between the protective pre-Zoroastrian goddess Spandermat, the Zoroastrian female archangel Spenta Armaiti, the month of Esfand, the contemporary festival of Esfandgan, and the protective herb Espand which is used by mothers to safeguard and purify their children, are clear, even to Muslims living in formerly Zoroastrian territories. All the Afghani, Iranian, and Tajik people who use Aspand whom i have interviewed or found via the web assert the sacred character and ancient nature of the rite.

WHAT IS ASPAND AND WHY IS IT SACRED
(AND SPIRITUALLY EFFECTIVE)?

Aspand is the common Persian / Dari / Farsi name for Peganum harmala, a perennial shrubby herb in the Zygophyllaceae or Caltrop family. The name is also transliterated as Espand, Esfand, and Esphand, and the plant itself is also given the regional common name Harmal or Harmala in Pakistan and India. In the USA its most common name is "Syrian Rue," a highly unfortunate monicker since although the leaves of the two plants are similar, Aspand is not related to Rue (Ruta graveolens) and it is not notable for growing in Syria, but rather in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and India.

Aspand grows from one to two feet high and prefers a desert environment. It has finely divided leaves and bears small white five-petaled flowers, followed by seed capsules containing many small, brown triangular-conical seeds. In addition to its use in the Aspand ritual, the seeds of the pant are used to make a red dye and are used medicinally to alleviate certain skin diseases.

Aspand seed is the richest natural source of two alkaloids, harmine and harmaline (their names come from the Indian name for the plant, Harmal). These alkaloids are members of a class of drugs called Mono Amine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAO Inhibitors or MAO-Is) that have been used in the treatment of clinical depression and, in larger doses, to produce psychotropic effects. In moderate doses, they produce a feeling of well-being and contentment. There are unpleasant side-effects to the ingestion of high doses of concentrated harmaline extracts, such as nausea and lassitude, but these effects do not occur when one breaths the smoke from burning Aspand. Among the most commonly reported psychotropic effects of harmaline and harmine are visual and auditory hallucinations, and it is commonly reported -- even by experimenters with no cultural connection to the breathing of Aspand smoke -- that these voices take the form of authoritative instructors. Perhaps the Aspand smoke stimulates some portion of the brain that evokes images of Archangels and Holy Kings and that -- combined with its anti-depressive activity -- is why it is considered a sacred plant that removes the Evil Eye.

Please note before experimenting with Aspand yourself that although MAO Inhibitors have been prescribed for depression, there are severe risks associated with their use because when they are ingested in combination with certain other substances, such as alcohol or aged cheese, some people experience toxic or even fatal reactions to them. For this reason MAO Inhibitors are no longer popular prescription drugs despite their efficacy at relieving depression. Also, for this reason, all companies that sell Aspand seed will tell you that it is NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, and if you are wise, you will heed that warning.

THE QUESTION OF "SYRIAN" RUE

After some study, i have come to the conclusion that the reason that the European plant called Rue is said to ward off the Evil Eye is that its lobed compound leaves superficially resemble Aspand. The fact that Europeans call Aspand "Syrian Rue" signifies that they see a relationship between the two plants -- but there is no genetic basis for the linkage, as they are in different taxonomic families.

Aspand is a psychoactive and anciently sacred plant from the desert areas of the Middle East and Central Asia, where Evil Eye belief originated; it is my theory that Rue is a European plant without psychoactive properties that looks enough like Aspand that Italians and other Mediterranean people adopted it as a magical substitute, despite the fact that the plants are not related.

CONCLUSION

What at first looked to an American outsider (me) like a simple apotropaic rite -- burning some seeds on charcoal to protect children from the Evil Eye -- turns out to be an ancient Zoroastrian prayer to the Five Archangels, as taught by the ancient King Naqshband, and to utilize a psychotropic drug as its central agent of efficacy. This rite may have led to the Italian custom of utilizing an entirely unrelated plant as an apotropaic charm to ward off the Evil Eye .
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#2 Posted : 4/25/2010 9:42:11 PM

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I always liked smoking rue and didnt enjoy drinking it..thought maybe sublingually with a manske tek will be different.

i want to explore rue more actaully..I have been thinking about it for a while..its so cheap and sustainable.
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#3 Posted : 4/25/2010 10:09:54 PM

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its an invasive species all around the world, I would say sustainable at the very least! your actually helping local ecosystems by harvesting it!
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#4 Posted : 4/26/2010 11:38:43 PM

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Thanks for that bucketload of info!
The warnings about cheese are outdated, though.

Contrary to many people I've never had any problems with this plant; I love the smell of the smoke, the taste of the tea, never get nausea, love its synergy with DMT (oral Aspand & smoked DMT is imho). Lately I take Manske extract under the tongue to avoid some of the potential poisons (anti-abortives).
Maybe I have a particularly good 1/2 kg batch, thank the Djinns Pleased

I'll call this Aspand from now on, since it's not only non-Syrian but also no Rue!
 
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#5 Posted : 4/27/2010 3:36:02 AM

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I smoked 2 bowls of syrian rue extract before my first spice experience and i must say, it worked absolute wonders.

Thanks for the post Dorge.
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#6 Posted : 4/27/2010 4:26:31 AM

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De nadda... it just shows relevance to smoke inhalation. thats what swim likes about this info...
yeah the cheese thing... PLUEEEZ...
the info is good though all in all... Its good to be able to see that many diverse ethnobotanical connections all at once, all based around harmal smoke inhalation. we are not the first to get this idea... but we might be the first to master its potential... a truly inspiring idea... if not a blatantly arrogant one... so in keeping with that... swim bows low to those that have come before...
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Wow, thanks for the information Dorge. Agreed, we bow low to the old ones who came before! I've very much enjoyed watching the smoke rise off of Aspand seeds, and their crackling noises and the sparkling colours they induce; it's clearly a magical and sacred plant, but glad to read the history of its use. I'll be using it in similar rites for banishing the Evil Eye.
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#8 Posted : 4/27/2010 7:16:41 PM

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How would I go about smoking the seeds without any kind of extraction?
Dosage?
 
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#9 Posted : 4/27/2010 9:53:07 PM

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imPsimon wrote:
How would I go about smoking the seeds without any kind of extraction?
Dosage?


You can smoke them as they come, but it's probably best to grind them up to ensure maximum flame surface. Just pack the pipe and smoke until you feel it, then keep going.
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#10 Posted : 4/27/2010 10:30:39 PM

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I basify them 1:1 with slaked lime - wet Ca(OH)2 - and dry them before smoking, much more potent! I just smoked some to enhance a mushroom underdose and boy does it work.

Sorry for the cheese nitpicking Dorge, never intended to downplay these wonderful documents! It's just amazing that it has such a rich history.

 
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#11 Posted : 4/28/2010 7:00:43 AM

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no problem trypt... i didnt write it! lol just good info for people to know. Some of that info is going into my book. SWIM has used it to clear the evil eye and brujeria... it works very well. swim will use it prior to a floral bath for some one. removes the malignant intentions of others, as well as dense energies period.

thats interesting about the addition of lime making it more effective. I mean its so strong as it is... thats good to know!

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#12 Posted : 4/28/2010 3:28:53 PM

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tryptographer wrote:
I basify them 1:1 with slaked lime - wet Ca(OH)2 - and dry them before smoking, much more potent! I just smoked some to enhance a mushroom underdose and boy does it work.


Can I base them with sodium carbonate?
 
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#13 Posted : 4/29/2010 12:26:29 PM

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imPsimon wrote:
Can I base them with sodium carbonate?

I guess that would work too, haven't tried it yet.
 
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Can someone recommend an appropriate dose for Vaporizing pure freebase Rue Harmalas..I'm guessing maybe 20mg would be enough?
 
 
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