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Posts: 776 Joined: 27-Jan-2010 Last visit: 07-Aug-2019 Location: uk
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In two weeks or so, Elvis will return to a jar of caapi leaf/chaliponga leaf which will have been soaking in IPA for almost a month. After just a day, it was bright green - Elvis thinks this is plant oils etc. Plan was to take this supercharged IPA and evap it onto fresh caapi leaf/chaliponga leaf. Hamburger Elvis wants to add 1:1 spice to the mix for super changa; Young Elvis is curious what the mixture will be like without added spice. is it really necessary for Hawaii Elvis to go through a complicated(ish) procedure to extract force and light from this IPA, because that would seem to make it a bit pointless because he could extract the alks in a more efficient way; ie A/B the spice and use a harmine tek for those alks... His Blue Suedeness would like to see if the simplicity of soaking and supercharging caapi/ponga leaf has a beneficial effect ... but does not want a harsh or dodgy smoke. Do you this is possible? "at journey's end, we must begin again"
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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SWIM thinks its possible... who knows! SWIM has some laying around still waiting to try it... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 776 Joined: 27-Jan-2010 Last visit: 07-Aug-2019 Location: uk
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well it may be love me tender or heartbreak hotel but one way or another we will find something out "at journey's end, we must begin again"
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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indeed.... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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From analysis of multiple reports. bioassays have shown with changapoonga, ie a spice, and chalipoonga ethanol extract/caapi leaf ethanol extract mix, provides a very relaxed, cleansed, or clear feeling. people have reported that it seems slightly less visual and more somaticly/kinnestheticly cleansing as well as focusing of their awareness to a crisp clear awareness of their light body... visions coming in at second to this incredibly clear headed, meditative state. It is definitely a winner, and definitely different then changa with out chalipoonga added to it. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 776 Joined: 27-Jan-2010 Last visit: 07-Aug-2019 Location: uk
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Excellent - sounds like it is exactly what we were looking for ... Dorge wrote:chalipoonga ethanol extract/caapi leaf ethanol extract mix I think we need a word for this, Dorge! "at journey's end, we must begin again"
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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hmmmmmmmmmm... I know.... SKY BRIDGE! how about that... because it just brings instant clarity of mind. Immediate! SWIM had just a had a very difficult argument with a loved one and working with this cleared all of the pain and confusion and left just total clarity and intuitive opening. Being within the light has never been so instant. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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caapi and chalipoonga infused caapi leaf (both10x extracts) on its own with out addition of spice bioassay finally completed. half bowl smoked, head change yes... tracers slightly, clear headed slight euphoria., heightened kinnesthetic awareness. no visions at all. with spice added definitely a noticeable difference. experiments to try... chalipoonga IPA soak with lime stone paste. strain, evap, smoke resin with 10x caapi leaf extract. Chalipoonga IPA resin ingested orally with 10 Caapi is worth a shot. Orally or sublingually. past Bio-assays indicate that chalipoonga extracted with ethanol and taken with rue extract or vine tea will work quite well. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 12340 Joined: 12-Nov-2008 Last visit: 02-Apr-2023 Location: pacific
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I have made changa with 10x chaliponga extract from iso, based with sodium carb, added to caapi shavings along with fullrange mimosa spice and it was very nice.. actaully it blew me away..all I remember of the higher dose was golden spirals of light and an hour long tryptamine glow that felt very healing after I came back. Long live the unwoke.
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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thats great! I wonder... I wonder if it would be effective with out adding spice to it though? yah SWIM is defintely sticking with sky bridge... SWIM really likes the way it rolls of the tongue. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Sky Bridge sounds good to me. How much spice was in the mix? Less than 1:1 or not? "at journey's end, we must begin again"
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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yeah 1:1 Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 557 Joined: 26-Apr-2009 Last visit: 17-Aug-2017 Location: United Kingdom
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Mmmm thanks guys time for a little experiment this eve  balaganist is a fictional character who loves playing the game of infinite existence. he amuses himself by posting stories about his made up life in our plane of physical reality. his origins are in other dimensions... he merely comes here to play.
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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doooooo it........ dooooooooooooooooooooo it.............. your perrrrfect for our experiments! Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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sorry that didnt mean to sound.... creepy... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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