I tried this tek and send the result to Kykeon analytics lab (check them out, they are really awesome!). Results are expected to come in by next week, exciting times!

I prepared my cheap >99% CBD powder together with an equal weight of zeolite and wrapped that well in aluminum foil.

I then preheated my oven at 105C, put the preparation into the aluminum foil in the oven, set the temperature to 150C and let that sit for half an hour.

The result I got out of the oven was some sticky paste that I dissolved in 96% ethanol and then poured through a coffee filter to remove any zeolite. What I was left with was a honey colored oil that I send to Kykeon analytics (really check them out at
https://shop.kykeonlabs.com/shop/store) for full analysis.

Looking forward to the results, if positive I will further experiment with CBD/Zeolite ratios, temperature and oxygen free atmospheres. Here is hoping for good results!


Kind regards,

The Traveler

Great to hear Traveler! Looking forward for the lab results and further explorations.

My tincture is mostly white with a slight orange tint, the oily drops can't be seen if I swirl it around. But after being till for some hours some mall seems to appear again. Perhaps I didn't convert as much into THC anyhow. Will try again with a bit of longer time in the oven. But want to try this one first.

This is very exciting indeed traveler!, can't wait to see the qualitative analysis of your 30 minute Run, Also kykeon Labs is extremely informative and anyone interested on knowing his substance should visit their website.

Hope that the lab-results arrive soon The Traveler!

Since last post the following has happened here. I evaporated the ethanol and water mix and re dissolved it in 96% ethanol. I have tried it yesterday. Took 0,5 ml sublingual (together with hemp oil because of to strong alcohol) and that was supposed to be around 30 mg THC if the conversion was 50% CBD/THC. I'm quite sensitive now to THC since I've stopped using it every evening but instead only once a week. I'm not sure how ~30 mg of THC works sublingual but my guess is that it would be much stronger than my experience.

I would say that it was not near 50% conversion, more like 10 - 15%. I would slowly get a nice buzz in my body. But very little mental effects. I slept really nice however and could notice that I was effected on some level.

I'll try another conversion soon.

I am curious how you would change the protocol described in the opening post for an oxygen-free jar method. Would you still do the compacting in aluminum foil?

Also, what about processing times and temperatures - I imagine adding a jar will significantly reduce heat transmission, and slow things down quite a bit. We're also adding quite a bit of ethanol vapor, and also water vapor as a product of burning ethanol. Since you mentioned water to be one of the potential reagents we don't want a lot of, I'm just wondering if this is something we need to be worried about.

hey there PsyDuckMonkey, these are great questions and i hope your experiments are going good.
there are two approaches in your first question, about using or not using aluminum foil inside the Jar, some people say aluminum is a must for them, i have also heard of people just using a layer of zeolite on the bottom of their jar and a layer of CBD above the zeolite, and when heat is applied the CBD will melt through the zeolite, personally i did not notice any difference being made on the final product between these two methods, in my humble opinion its a matter of personal choice, because remember, there is not much existent scientific literature on the subject for us to be certain of a method and know exactly how well it works, experimentation is our best friend in these cases, on the other questions, i do not believe the ethanol vapor (if any at all escapes the flame) will contribute by any means to the isomerization, now as you mentioned the burning of ethanol will
create water and carbon dioxide, but here is the trick: this happens only in a oxygen containing environment (source: https://www.open.edu/ope...=83424&section=2.2.1) ,now remember water needs oxygen to be formed and we have a flame in a sealed environment which will keep going for as long as there is sufficient oxygen inside ,so there shouldn't be any significant amount of H2O created if any at all, i think you get the idea by now (also another flammable solvent can just as easily be used, just make sure its anhydrous if you want no H20 present of course), also the only reason water would be unwanted is if you wanted to minimize Δ8-THC being present in your product, other than that its nothing to be worried about, for example if someone wanted a purely Δ8 distillate he would use water as a medium and something like citric acid for a catalyst
as for the heat transmission this is a very good question since glass is the opposite of thermoconductive, this is why i said that you put the reactants in the oven at 105C and start your timer at 150C, i believe that this in-between period offers enough time for the heat to be distributed, however heat is the only factor i would suggest to everyone to experiment with himself, since different ovens etc. will probably have slightly different results (i mean there is probably difference in heat distribution etc. between a 10 year old cheap oven and a "smart" oven made at 2023), this is where the potassium hydroxide CBD reagent test can come in handy, you are able to test in real time conversion rates from your specific timeframes and equipment.
keep it safe and DYOR.

Good questions PsyDuckmonkey. I wrote something similar earlier in this thread. And thanks THanoC for your reply.

I cant get pure ethanol, only 96%. And it seems like a hassle to use 100%. Perhaps you could dry it as with acetone but I hope to find other ways. So using 96% ethanol it will have 4% water that will turn into vapor inside the sealed jar. perhaps a small amount of water is 'better' than oxygen. I don't know. But it kept me from trying. That and that I cant find a good air tight jar that don't have plastic in the lid. As I wrote consumer jars have metals lids with a plastic lining that is now safe for higher temperatures (over 100c). Probably there are other jars that are better but I cant find them.

So. I did the folding foil version. As I wrote when trying out a small bit (0,5ml) I found it containing less THC then expected. But yesterday I did a bit deeper dive and took 1ml with would be around 62ml THC if it had been a 50% conversion. mixed the alcohol (96%) it with a bit of hemp oil and held it sublingual fro some minutes then swallowing. Not much happened for over 2,5h... then something. Really really slowly I wound notice that I was getting stoned. And when I went to bed, about 3h after intake I was indeed high. Not as if I would have taken 62mg of THC (I think) but definitely effected In a nice clean/clear way. I went to sleep, waking up a few times during the night with a really nice body feeling, and mind. Good times in all.

I have not taken THC mixed with CBD orally before so I don't have prior experiences to compare it to. But I liked it. Will try out more, but not to much to soon. Don't want to get into daily cannabis usage as before.

hey there murklan!,am happy it worked for you!
Also, that is okay, worst case scenario is you will end up with a Δ8 distillate that you will need a speck more of the substance to get the same effects as Δ9, i don't view this as that big of a deal considering the resources and time it would take for someone to isomerize even a whole kilogram of THC!, this is a very safe and easy method (as long as one follows the basic rules, like not smoking zeolite..) so i would not hesitate to experiment

I just spotted an inconsistency: just above you say


but the original post has:



Which would result in less heating. From the rest of your post it looks like start timer at 150c is the way to go. can you edit your original post a bit to reflect this, if the board allows?

thanks for pointing that out fractals4life, i will edit it to reflect it, in the original post i did not include the jar method to keep things as simple as possible and just added it later as an extra after people asked about better minimization of oxygen, you don't really have to think about heat distribution when you don't use the jar method.