So like title states, what do you believe was the cause of your hyperslap? Friend just experienced two in a row, two nights in a row. He believes it was caused by doing to large of a dose the first night, second night was 25mg and was very similar to the first one which was around 45mg. Both direct e mesh.

Definitely heed the warnings about dosing with e mesh for it will for sure surprise you and there is no going back after just one hit!

I told a little joke about Jada Pinkett Smith.

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Mine was from not listening to messages from a previous journey saying to give the spice a slight break. I went right back in and it didn't go well.

One love

I once shone a laser on the wall, and then i started seeing all these secret codes. So i started looking closer and i see all these little demon programmers assembling the secret codes. And they're putting all these little subliminal messages in the codes in the wall, saying "kill everybody, kill, kill, kill". And i'm like:"no way i'm going to let these little demon programmers brainwash the good people of planet earth". So i run out of my house and start screaming so that everybody can hear:"don't look at the walls, they want you to kill everybody". But the neighbours must have already been affected by the codes, because they start screaming realy unpleasant things at me from their bedroom windows. So i'm thinking that now only drastic measures can prevent this massive killing spree that the little demon programmers have been planning for us. I run to my shed and take out my sledgehammer. I must tear down all the walls before my neighbours start looking at them again. So i start banging on all the walls in my street with my sledgehammer and then suddenly, after a few minutes, cops arrive with their flashlights on. Oh my god, the demons must have sent them my way to prevent me preventing their develish plans. But how? And then i realise:The policecar. The demons must be in the in the policecar as well, or the policeradio!! So i run towards the policecar and start tearing the thing apart with my sledgehammer. But it's too late, they taze me and take me with them. But to my horror, even the walls of the policecells are filled with codes. Clearly visible, even without lasers. Things like: "fuck the police", "fuck the system", weird coded messages like "ACAB", and also pornographic images of all sorts.
So i start screaming at my cellmates:"don't look at the walls, they're filled with evil codes from the little demon programmers". But it's too late again, they've already looked and they come running at me and one of them punches me right in the face.

So the next day i'm charged with destruction of public property and disturbing the peace, so i'm trying to explain to them that it wasn't me who was trying to disturb the peace, but the little demon programmers in the walls. So they said that they know someone who is also a doctor who is realy interested to hear about the little demon programmers in the walls. I don't know what a doctor could do about them, but maybe he has a bigger sledgehammer than me so i can't wait to tell him about the little demon programmers and the secret codes. Someone must stop them.

Same thing happened to me.

If they're on the walls it's too late. KMAG YOYO

Guess nobody else wants to talk about it. Friend is having a time with the e mesh method, it seems like the same dose is drastically different every time he tries it. Like sometimes 30mg has no effect whatsoever and the very next time 30mg will be unbelievably too much. Can't seem to figure it out, he's using the same settings and inhale but the experience is from nothing to SLAP.

I smoked (yep smoked, not vaped) waaay too much waaay too fast and had a lengthy blackout. "Came down into ego death," and when the entities realized that I realized I wasn't dead, things got nasty pretty quickly.

is his technique on point? is he getting the full emesh dose every time? for me emesh is very consistent. maybe he should try smaller doses. around 20mg, maybe even see what 10mg does.

Still curious for you to actually give this a shot, dragonrider! I asked a few questions in the laser thread that you may not have seen. Or maybe you did and don't care, which is fine, too.

OP,

I am inexperienced with DMT so take that in consideration. But I don't necessarily believe there needs to be a specific reason for it or not. I think people just try and find a reason because it provides the illusion of safety and comfort. It's far scarier to consider that you have zero control over it whatsoever, despite "giving up control" being a central theme to these experiences (good or bad).

People find it more palatable believe, "I must've done x, thus, I received y" in order to prevent them in the future. Explanations for why they deserved such a horrifying experience just sound like a battered partner trying to downplay their toxic relationship, to be honest. "DMT shows you what you need, not what you want" is like a psychonaut's version of, "He only hits me because he loves me."

I'm definitely not saying you can't do specific things to incite a specific experience, either. Plenty of people report being told to slow down, ignoring it, and getting a terrifying result immediately. Lots of folks seem to trigger terrifying experiences through what they define as "abusing" the molecule. I'm just saying that I frequently read enough reports where none of this is the case. It seems like Russian roulette or DMT being like a box of chocolates is often the explanation.

People not receiving the same effects as before is still debated and not well understood. Pharmacologically, there is no evidence of a physical tolerance. But many report "lockout", often accompanied by the entities telling them they're no longer welcome. I've read of people being flicked out by the Jester and awaking stone sober on their couch. People have said they saw "CLOSED" signs in Hyperspace before awaking sober, too.

After I tried coming back after my terrifying experience, I'd either get nothing from the same vape hit, or the full memory of how terrifying it was. One example included every object in my room morphing into this evil, distorted version of itself within a split second. I look up and everything is distorted and black-and-white only and I have the memory of terror from the previous experience. It definitely seemed like warnings not to come back, tbh. Or at least reminding me of what can be/is waiting for me, haha. The only subsequent time I was able to see amazing visuals in my head again was when I did the laser experiment in my signature. The entities I'd seen prior to the scary trip were there, giving me a thumbs up and waving. It was very peculiar.

Regardless, if I had to pick a reason, it'd be because I was flippantly hitting the vape without a care in the world. I didn't realize the truly awesome power of the molecule or what was on the other side. I didn't even consider I could go that far with low, short vape hits on a cart. And I'd been recommending others do it, too. So regardless if I triggered it from that or not, I took it as a serious sign that I was inappropriately telling friends these low doses were nothing but fun. I'd feel terrible if one of my friends got that experience unexpectedly, especially based on my insistence everything was harmless. So there's that, I guess.

Well spoke scaredofthedark, thank you.