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ayaBrew
#1 Posted : 9/15/2023 9:23:41 AM

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Hey there,

My friends and I were trying to figure out the craziest thing we could do on DMT and realized that watching a live child birth would be, by far, the most incredible, mind-blowing experience that we could think of.

We are looking for a woman with-child who would permit 5 respectful ~35 year old men to watch her give live birth, while on ayahuasca.

Compensation is negotiable, but for sure at least $100 pp and the knowledge of knowning that you just blew some peoples' mind, having a baby come out of you.

This offer may not be for everyone. If you know someone who may be interested, plase share this offer so that might fulfill our dream of watching a live birth on ayahuasca brew.
 

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#2 Posted : 9/15/2023 11:45:41 AM
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#3 Posted : 9/15/2023 12:05:25 PM

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Ps. At the risk of sounding rude, this also just seems like a bit of a reach and a ridiculous idea...
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#4 Posted : 9/15/2023 12:31:02 PM

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#5 Posted : 9/15/2023 12:31:55 PM

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#6 Posted : 9/15/2023 12:55:36 PM

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ayaBrew wrote:
...We are looking for a woman with-child who would permit 5 respectful ~35 year old men to watch her give live birth, while on ayahuasca...
So she must be on ayahuasca Laughing
 
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#7 Posted : 9/15/2023 2:33:13 PM

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1.) It's an offer of a type of twisted commerce. Against the Attitude link above.

2.) Childbirth is one of the most extreme, most painful, most terrifying and most intimate experiences a human being can have in their life. It is not a spectator sport.

3.) Related to 2. You want to do something like that then treat a woman with enough respect and love to marry you and be willing to have a child with you. Then try making that suggestion and see how far you get.

4.) Would you want to witness bloody torture while tripping on oral DMT? Other than the amazing and loving resolution at the end, that's what childbirth looks like.

5.) Is there something wrong with youtube and other video sources, including the classic episode of Nova?

6.) This is one of the most self-centered suggestions I have witnessed in a long time. To think that such an experience is just to make your psychedelic trip more extreme is ridiculously egotistic. A woman is giving birth to a new soul and instead of doing everything you can to support her and those around her you want to make it all about YOU.
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#8 Posted : 9/15/2023 2:48:31 PM

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Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick regarding what life's about, ayaBrew. Send me a thousand bucks and I'll come up with a far better idea.




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
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#9 Posted : 9/15/2023 3:40:18 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick regarding what life's about, ayaBrew. Send me a thousand bucks and I'll come up with a far better idea.



He was only offering $100. Stop Thumbs down
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#10 Posted : 9/16/2023 1:04:05 AM

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Pandora wrote:
downwardsfromzero wrote:
Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick regarding what life's about, ayaBrew. Send me a thousand bucks and I'll come up with a far better idea.



He was only offering $100. Stop Thumbs down

At least a hundred bucks, times five. Trust me, this one will be worth that bit extra.

It'll be next-level.




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#11 Posted : 9/16/2023 1:13:37 AM

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Based on intent and overall idea, this is kind of disrespectful.

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#12 Posted : 9/16/2023 3:43:25 AM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Based on intent and overall idea, this is kind of disrespectful.

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Yes - and not "kind of" either.

Suffice to say, childbirth is something that tends to happen most smoothly without an audience.




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
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#13 Posted : 9/16/2023 7:11:39 AM

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Hello,

Sorry, I forgot to mention that we are from Brazil, and ayahuasca is legal over here.

I already have 5 children and I know what birth is and how it looks. I do not see anything shameful in watching birth, my wife does not see anything bad and disrespectful in this either. Now I read the forum with my wife and we commented together.

My wife gave birth to children at home. But unfortunately, at that time I was not fond of psychedelics and did not know about DMT a little more than the fact that it was a tryptamine contained in plants. I assisted my wife myself with my mother and we were all sober.

We could conceive the 6th child, but I and my wife think that 5 children are enough for us and we will dwell on this.
Although who knows, maybe maybe Wink
But I want to observe birth now and my friends too. Of our friends, no one is planning the birth of a child, friends already have their own family.


@downwardsfromzero, thank you for the idea about 1000 bucks, I think this is rational, why not support the young family. Each of us would pay $ 200 and it would be quite acceptable. And what idea for 1000 bucks do you have? I look forward to hearing from you.


@Voidmatrix, I don't understand why you put it so badly and stigmatize my idea. I get the feeling that everything natural is disrespectful to you. In my opinion, you have become a hostage to your own, or, more precisely, imposed by a sick society, frameworks and prejudices.


@Pandora, why to talk about some kind of self-concentration and the things like. It's just not so. Why are you so belittling a woman omitting the process of birth as something shameful, or bad? This is wrong. This is a great event and you can’t imagine how to joyfully observe (and give) the birth of a new life in the present moment. I don’t know how many children you have, but it seems to me if you had at least 4 children you would not say that.

Thank you for your input.
 
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#14 Posted : 9/16/2023 7:58:35 AM

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Been there man. Not ayahuasca though. Five hundred mics of acid. Saw a woman give birth to triplets. I thought I took too much and was seeing triple, but - nah man. You haven’t tripped, until you’ve triplet tripped.

You have the right idea man. You and your five 35 year old friends, who would all want this kind of experience. I don’t know what is wrong with these Nexian people. Like, have they not even broken through? Do they not know that this - THIS is the apex?

You know what would be better though? (I know. Hard to imagine a better idea than this one. But hear me out.)

So, get a woman to birth triplets, right? Simultaneously, find three people who want to die. Hook em up with some pistols, and them in the OR with preggers. As the babies are making their way out - BANG! Out goes the old, in with the new!

Make it even better? Orgy in the room the whole. Dang. Time. And you five, eyes wide with pupils like saucers on ayahuasca, watching all of it, and all of the spirit energy leaving the suicide guys, maybe entering the orgy participants in their rebirth forms, all the while some poor woman is screaming in the corner, showing where all that life energy goes when it’s ripe………

Now that would be a religious experience. For shame, Nexians. How the heck can we call ourselves consciousness explorers while poo-poo-ing these FIVE guys in their mid-thirties’ plan to take ayahuasca together and watch a woman give birth? We are supposed to HELP expand consciousness, not trip(/kink?) shame them! Take more DMT, expand your mind, think about it.

….. Nah, but seriously, pretty sure these dudes are just messing with you. I laughed pretty hard.
 
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#15 Posted : 9/16/2023 6:23:06 PM
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Hi, i'm DMT lexus, also known as magictrip, schizotwatt, willy wanker, wanker enthusiast, hypocrite twatt, buttfucker, and cattlefart. These are all names i gave to myself out of my own free will. No one forced me to name myself that way.

I am unhealthily obsessed with anything anal, especially anal penetration, and i project this onto everyone who i come into contact with.

I also suspect everyone around me to be gay. Especially handsome men with great booties that i do not like to stare at at all, even though they have immense, strong, muscular, powerfull, tight glutes like a real stud, like the men you see in the gayporn i swear i never secretly watch.

I am here to troll because it makes me feel like a real man.

 
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#16 Posted : 9/16/2023 6:42:17 PM

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Well, before it was immature and stupid, but absurd enough to be laughable. Now it’s just despicable and hateful.
 
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#17 Posted : 9/16/2023 7:04:37 PM

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I'm busy and can't address all this now, so I'm locking this thread.

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What if the "truth" is: the "truth" is indescernible/unknowable/nonexistent? Then the closest we get is through being true to and with ourselves.


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#18 Posted : 9/16/2023 7:14:23 PM

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lol i'm not surprised they blame a normal straight man. they supporting fags here and they think when men fuck another men in ass it's completely normal and good, they think when women sleep with a lot of men is normal and good, but when this man wanna trip during the live birth observing this happy event they started messing with him. really for shame. next step they will start banning because someone don't accept other pervesions like zoophilia for example? huh? and start blame and call people zoophilophobic probably. long story short, when you just think in a way of common sense they call you /-phobic/ or some other word suposed to blame.
their mind is completely down under. brainwashed by media. forgot what common sense is. they think fags and other perverts is OKAY, but when the straight man with a big family wanna observe live birth on aya they start blaming him. SHAME! Thumbs down

and they ban me all the time here for being a normal man.


MT, I know it's you and you know that neither you nor your bigoted rhetoric are wanted here. If you want to avoid getting banned go to Reddit, but I will always be happy to clip your wings here. That said, you will not be able to respond because you'll be getting a 10,000 day suspension.

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Voidmatrix, I don't understand why you put it so badly and stigmatize my idea. I get the feeling that everything natural is disrespectful to you. In my opinion, you have become a hostage to your own, or, more precisely, imposed by a sick society, frameworks and prejudices.


You were able to discern such and draw such conclusions from my two previous sentences? You have no idea what you're talking about and you damn sure don't know me. You're completely off base.

I think it's also cute you want to thank DF0 when they're in agreement with my stance.

And you don't seem to have any respect for a process like birth or aya simply by virtue of thinking its the "craziest thing you can do on aya." You sound like a child.

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What if the "truth" is: the "truth" is indescernible/unknowable/nonexistent? Then the closest we get is through being true to and with ourselves.


Know thyself, nothing in excess, certainty brings insanity- Delphic Maxims

DMT always has something new to show you Twisted Evil

Question everything... including questioning everything... There's so much I could be wrong about and have no idea...
All posts and supposed experiences are from an imaginary interdimensional being. This being has the proclivity and compulsion for delving in depths it shouldn't. Posts should be taken with a grain of salt. 👽
 
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#19 Posted : 9/16/2023 7:26:09 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
[...]

MT, I know it's you and you know that neither you nor your bigoted rhetoric are wanted here. If you want to avoid getting banned go to Reddit, but I will always be happy to clip your wings here. That said, you will not be able to respond because you'll be getting a 10,000 day suspension.


Beat you to it. MT might wonder "why I'm being mean when he was only ever nice to me" but that just highlights the spectacular lack of joined-up thinking he's displaying.

Btw, MT, I was always kind to you too but look how you've repaid that. Think this monkey doesn't learn?




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#20 Posted : 9/16/2023 10:54:06 PM

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In a sense this would be something like pornography or prostitution. Not in a sexual way, but in that you are paying someone to share something very intimate with you.

And it isn't even realy sharing, because you are basically just watching, consuming the spectacle, while she is the one actually going through all of it.

And it ís very intimate, even though there might be medical professionals around. Most women would probably prefer not having those people around, if it wasn't for safety's sake, in case of complications and so on.

So if you would find a woman, willing to comply, how do you know she realy realy wants to, and she's not just in a financially desperate situation?

And what if she IS in a financially desperate situation, and she agrees, but during the "spectacle" you can feel that she realy, realy, realy doesn't like the whole situation? What if you at that moment become aware that you are stealing one of the most important moments in her life from her and she'll be forever scarred by that experience? Epic.

Why this urge to push moral boundaries? To get a kick out of it?
Try skydiving. At least it will be your own boundaries you are pushing then, and not someone else's.

But the irony is, that if you realy think you NEED such boundaries to be pushed, it probably will be an empty experience anyway. Because you will not be able to enjoy the big things, if you're not able to enjoy the little things.

Try practicing mindfullness. Learn to appreciate an epic sunrise or a beautiful sky.






 
 
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