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yawhay
#1 Posted : 1/22/2023 3:30:46 PM
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Greetings Amigos,


Approximately two hundred grams of MHRB has been located and a 'Lazyman's Tek' has been undergone.

Everything that has been done so far is pretty straight forward..

Broke down the bark, made a Lye/Distilled water solution, then combined the two.. Waited an hour or so, stirred for a while, added naptha, stirred for a while, waited for it to settle and then sucked the naptha with a turkey baster into a large glass pan and put it into the freeze.

Another extraction or two have been done hereafter but the questions regard obtaining supposed alkaloid from the freezer dish.

Now, a size-able quantity of milky mountainous structures were scraped out of said pan after the solvent was poured off and the pan allowed to dry, while being upside-down on some paper towels outside of the freeze.

This nice dose of miniature snow hills were scraped out and placed on a coffee filter, and another smaller amount on some paper towels. It was observed that whilst scraping, solvent was still being collected by the razor.

It was then observed that this cool collection of frozen particles shrunk, melted, and disappeared over a duration of a few minutes, while still on the papers. It was also noted that the excess solvent that was collected seemed to evaporate off of the structures before they melted.

It is at this point understood that this first pull was not a success, which is disappointing given the amount of structures that had formed on the pan.

The concerns are not with what has been wasted but with what is left.

So not only was it probably prematurely pulled from the freeze, but it also was prematurely scraped, correct?

As it has been read, but not understood, one should recycle the solvent quickly, and then place the still frozen dish immediately back in the freezer, right? They also should place it upside down to drain off any excess solvent, right? No lids are available so the excess will just have to drain on towelettes. Now for a good time this dish should sit there in the freeze, let us say 3 hours.

Now these questions are very important, suppose what has been stated above to be correct. What does one do after the pan has been refrozen upside down with the solvent poured off and the tiny structures still adhering to the pan?

One can simply scrape them off and allow them to dry on a small dish since largely no solvent remains on them, disallowing them to melt and disappear? Is it this easy?

Thanks for answering these questions, please assume what was done in the Tek to be mostly right and advise only in regard to extracting precipitate from freezer-frozen naptha dishes with white things on them.

Many great explorations are ahead of us, any help is appreciated.

Yawhay




 

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Voidmatrix
#2 Posted : 1/22/2023 3:56:52 PM

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Yep, just scrape with a razor blade. They likely won't need to dry much more, but it never hurts.

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Toshido
#3 Posted : 1/23/2023 2:13:38 AM

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yawhay wrote:


The concerns are not with what has been wasted but with what is left.






I had some frozen bulbous mounds in my dish after decanting the solvent (left image). They eventually evaporated. Guessing it was a mixture of slightly frozen water/oxygen/solvent or something. Once everything cooled to room temp and evaporated it looked like this (right image).

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