Hey all,

I have a kg of shredded caapi along with a kg of chacruna leaves and I'm planning on brewing my first batch of aya. I'm planning on brewing up the caapi and leaves separately. If I understand the reading correctly, I should probably brew a decent sized batch, I was thinking 500g of each and then storing in the fridge/freezer for drinking. I understand the staged brewing process and the 12 hour commitment needed to brew the caapi. I want to be sure I understand the dosing better though.

Most information I've reviewed says to start with just the caapi and to start at 25g, ramping up over time until you find your sweet spot. I'm not sure what the sweet spot should be for just caapi, should I be expecting a full experience from just the caapi? Should I be adding the chacruna leaves into these beginning experiences?

I would love to get some advice from your experience in this area to make sure I'm doing this right. Any reading you can point me to as well would be great.

Thanks,

I have no experience with chacruna, but with caapi the long boiling times are optional. There is a theory that some THH alkaloid might be generated with long boils resulting in a qualitatively different experience, but for most part it's just about how to extract the alkaloids most efficiently.

I have done 3x30 minute boils with caapi. That is drain the water out of the plant material after the boil into a jug and then add more water to get more alkaloids out. You will get plenty with that 3x30 min boil. The more water you use, the more soluble the alkaloids will be, but the more you will have to drink, unless you reduce boil the resulting juice to a comfortable volume.

There's no reason you couldn't do a boil with 25 grams. Only reason to do big batch is to save time as far as I know. I believe 25 grams is a pretty good starter as a dose.

You will get some effects from the caapi alone but definitely not the full experience. For that you need the DMT containing plant such as chacruna. You can start carefully, by ingesting just little of the DMT on top of the caapi.

Nausea is something that can be learned to handle, but if you feel like cheating, you can buy lemon essential oil and encapsulate it for greatly reduced nausea.

Also, you should check the interactions between MAOIs such as the alkaloids contained in caapi and any medication / substances you take.

Best of luck and please report back on your experience!