ohayoco wrote:Hi Opiyum, listen I'm sorry for my ranting but please I hope you can understand that I was never angry with you, I am angry with what heroin does to people, at least the people I have seen involved with it.
Bufoman- personally I believe the argument that prohibition alone causes the downsides of heroin use is false... prohibition makes things far worse, yes, but children would still go neglected under her hand if it were legal, and people would still be enslaved by her, as they were for hundreds of years before prohibition in the opium dens, hoarhouses, etc... I agree it should be legal, but with help and alternatives offered to those who feel drawn to it.
Anyway, Opiyum, if this is all too off-topic from the original question and you'd be interested in educating me and others out of any prejudices we may have, I'd be really interested in hearing about your experiences with heroin here or in another thread. I've never tried it because I know I would love it and I know it's dangerous. It took my dreamer years to stop craving his first pill again, despite it making him feel awful for a week afterwards and being so far down on the harm and addiction scale, so I think he would be on a downhill slide if he ever tried heroin. I'm always baffled by how anyone would even consider it, despite knowing people who have, and tried it quite mindlessly, just because it was on offer... some didn't like it, some did.
Anyway, aya/DMT helped to save my dreamer's life a year ago, I hope it helps you to steer your life the way you want it to go too. Don't get put off by the rants in this thread, we are not the molecule or the vine, just people grateful to have experienced it.

Sorry if I've pissed you off Trav. Who is not Jacky, I'm sure... at least, I personally see no similarity in their posts. I would be very surprised!

I fully understand and if there were anything to forgive you for I would offer my forgiveness up on a platter to you my friend.
I really don't think Jacky and the Traveler are the same person but it's amazing to me how greatly the websites they each created have effected my my life. I have so much respect for both of them. Really I don't know The Trav all that well but I do know Jacky pretty well...as well as one can without actually meeting a person. They are pioneers and visionaries in my opinion and because of that I look at them as almost one entity.
Oh and it wasnt' until class wars, racism, oppression and really just ignorance or worse willful ignorance on the part of the powers that be throughout history that the negative side effects of the opium poppy were realized (and many others tools of slavery). Now it's just much clearer but really it was the same back in the beginning asa it is now. That which is above is also below etc etc...
Then you get into the distillation of alcohol and isolation of morphine hundereds of years later and well...we need an archaic revival as so many much smarter people than I have said for a long time now.
The heathens in the jungle had it right all along.
It seems the only benefit to being a white man is that if time travel is invented and a reality someday we are really the only ones who can go into the past at just about any point and get a table at the nicest restaraunt without a problem. Minorities, blacks in preticular probably wouldn't really wanna go any further back than the 70's or 80's.
That's a Loius C.K. bit. It's not mine. Funny none the less and maybe has something to do with what I was just talking about. I don't know. It's all so god damned overwhelming sometimes....the hurt...the suffering...so many people for so god damn long....what is wrong with us? Better question. Will we ever change our ways?