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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil) Options
 
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#921 Posted : 1/10/2010 4:24:01 AM

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nice tek but can naptha be used instead of d-limo.

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#922 Posted : 1/21/2010 1:09:51 AM
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The other day swIm had some nice waxy acetate sitting in the pan ready to scrape up. It was dry to touch and would only take on a fingerprint etc if pushed hard...

Swim mucked about and never got around to scraping it, now today he thought he'd get it out of the way and he's found his acetate is oily and much softer than before.

Today is a bit colder than it has been, maybe the acetate's picking up moisture from the air?
 
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#923 Posted : 1/21/2010 2:57:37 AM

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Frenzal wrote:
maybe the acetate's picking up moisture from the air?


Thats exactly whats happening.... The other alkaloids take on moisture very quickly
 
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#924 Posted : 1/21/2010 3:48:02 PM

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Should swim just go ahead and buy the gallon of d-limo?, the price for a quart doesnt seem worth it.
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#925 Posted : 1/22/2010 12:05:54 AM
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I'd buy limo in bulk if i were you, useful stuff.

Acetate came up lovely once the temp/humidity improved.
 
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#926 Posted : 1/26/2010 8:56:24 AM
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*cough*

So...

optyks wrote:
Quick question...

Do I have to have dried cactus, or can I just grind up fresh and use that, seeing as its mostly water anyway? I dont have the time nor the tools to dry all mine..

Follow the tek word for word otherwise?

 
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#927 Posted : 1/26/2010 9:13:02 AM

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optyks wrote:
*cough*

So...

optyks wrote:
Quick question...

Do I have to have dried cactus, or can I just grind up fresh and use that, seeing as its mostly water anyway? I dont have the time nor the tools to dry all mine..

Follow the tek word for word otherwise?



Very happy hello

this particular tek has been designed for DRY cactus my friend.
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#928 Posted : 1/26/2010 3:46:17 PM

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I thought of a way to easily dry cactus.

Just cut it into stars or cucumbers, saving as much green flesh as possible, and eliminating as much white flesh as possible. Then throw your chunks in a big bowl in the freezer.

With any luck, it should turn to liquidy mush. You can probably even remove the skins at this point, if you care.

But now it should be much much easier to dry than the unfrozen cactus chunks. It would probably only take a day or two in front of a fan (w or w/o mild heat) to dry out to useable consistency. Compared to a week or more of sun drying, dessicating, and low temp oven drying of cactus chunks to never fully achieve dryness anyway.

Never tried this method, but I think it would work.

Good luck.
 
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#929 Posted : 1/26/2010 5:15:53 PM

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PlainCoil wrote:

Never tried this method, but I think it would work.
Good luck.

It really wouldn't, but nice idea anyway.

PlainCoil wrote:

With any luck, it should turn to liquidy mush....

This wouldn't happen actually. frozen and thawed cactus does not turn to liquidy mush. The pieces would stay more-or-less intact and it takes them same amount of time to dry out.

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#930 Posted : 1/26/2010 7:00:28 PM

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This reminds swim of an accident he had recently. He was away, and forgot to bring in his cacti. Well the temp spiked at 20 and froze his pedros. There was about 8 inches of new growth on each. When they thawed, he cut them and dried in the oven/fan. The new growth dried much differently than the base. The base when dried, resulted in normal looking chips, but the new growth looked like most of the flesh disappeared and just left the skin. I think maybe from freezing, the flesh turned into goo and just evapped when drying.
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#931 Posted : 1/29/2010 8:35:46 PM
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Thank you all for this thread, Mescaline is one thing SWIMS always wanted to try, but it's never been around his area.
This tek and it's followups are full of valuable information. SWIM will be starting his own extraction soon. Very happy

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#932 Posted : 1/31/2010 3:18:00 AM
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Where is a good place to look for food grade calcium hydroxide? SWIMS looked at HEB plus and a few orgainc food stores with no luck.
Tried using the search.. and reading through as many threads as SWIM could tolerate..


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#933 Posted : 1/31/2010 6:34:31 AM

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Zen_Clarity wrote:
Where is a good place to look for food grade calcium hydroxide? SWIMS looked at HEB plus and a few orgainc food stores with no luck.
Tried using the search.. and reading through as many threads as SWIM could tolerate..


Thanks
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Mrs. Wages Pickling Lime can be found at most grocery stores, some department stores, and even some hardware stores next to the canning supplies.
 
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#934 Posted : 1/31/2010 9:16:57 AM
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Thanks! Pickling lime... Why does everything have so many names.

One more question .. SWIMS seen cacti vary in price... SWIM doesn't want to get shafted trying to save a few bucks, but, SWIM doesn't really want to pay $90 bucks for 100g either.

EDIT: Never mind.. read all 48 pages... I'm good... awesome thread!

Thanks
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#935 Posted : 1/31/2010 3:48:34 PM

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Swim has french press made out of polycarbonate, is limonene safe to use with it>?

Nevermind, the limo started to break down the plastic plunger on the french press, make sure you get some industrial one if your going to use one.
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#936 Posted : 2/1/2010 5:46:11 AM

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On freezing and thawing cactus - up to 50% of its weight can be shed as juice, squeezing the cactus out and refreezing can get more out.
always wanted to try just evap that juice streight.
or bomb with acetone then evap.
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#937 Posted : 2/1/2010 7:34:29 PM

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Phlux- wrote:
On freezing and thawing cactus - up to 50% of its weight can be shed as juice, squeezing the cactus out and refreezing can get more out.
always wanted to try just evap that juice streight.
or bomb with acetone then evap.


Swim scraped the tray he dried frozen/thawed san p on. This yielded yellow powder, not sure if its active or not yet.
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#938 Posted : 2/7/2010 11:19:15 PM

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hola ron

i wold like to try this tek but SWIM have some probs geting d-limo in NL.

can one use haptane/naptha/ or maby Toluene, Toluene is verry expensive here so if haptane/naptha works it wold be great,

i know this is not like foodsafe anymore but no food safe shizzle in NL Sad

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#939 Posted : 2/8/2010 5:57:55 AM

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nope u cant use heptane or naptha - u must use xylene or dlimo or tolly.
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#940 Posted : 2/9/2010 8:41:05 PM

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Sorry if I missed it, I've been away from the forum for a while, but my d-limo/vinegar emulsed. I extracted mescaline from it and got great results. I also found that by adding more vinegar, i could reduce the emulsion and continue yielding mesc. I realize that the bubbles are not mescaline, but is it possible they are a byproduct of vinegar that is supersaturated or highly saturated with mescaline?
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