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I can't access the paper, but apparently it has some interesting info, from what I've gathered from this Spanish article: http://www.plantaforma.o...RMOxOLoY2-Kz0tdeaKVIsbW0Original paper: https://www.tandfonline....80/02791072.2020.1815911Quote:The study aimed to determine concentrations of the main bio- and psychoactive components of ayahuasca used in different locations and traditions. We collected 102 samples of brews from ayahuasca-using communities. Concentrations of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT), tetrahydroharmine, harmine, and harmaline were determined by ultra-high performance liquid chromatography coupled to tandem mass spectrometry (UHPLC-MS/MS). Qualitative analyses for non-traditional additives (moclobemide, psilocin, yuremamine) were performed by high resolution mass spectrometry. Higher and more variable concentrations of DMT in neoshamanic ayahuasca samples compared to indigenous samples may indicate use of higher and more variable proportions of DMT-containing admixture plants. From European samples, we found two related samples of analog ayahuasca containing moclobemide, psilocin, DMT, yuremamine, and very low concentrations of B. caapi alkaloids. Some analogs of ayahuasca (Peganum harmala, Mimosa tenuiflora) were used in Europe. No analogs were found from Brazil or Santo Daime ceremonies in Europe.
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Link to full paper - https://sci-hub.se/https...80/02791072.2020.1815911Keep that sci-hub.se site in mind, a lot of full papers can be accessed through that site.
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Thanks ShamensStamen. This is interesting: Quote:Decline of THH/HME ratio with the degree of Daime corresponds to longer boiling times and also to increasing number of repeated extractions of the same plant material during feitio, and may be related to different qualitative subjective effects of different degrees of Daime It doesn't quite fit the hypothesis that harmaline gets reduced to THH in the decoction process...? Quote:Average (minimal – maximal) percentages from the sum of the concentrations of the 4 analytes were: DMT 26.2% (9.2–63.7%); THH 29.8% (1.4–55.4%); harmine 41.5% (15.0–75.0%); harmaline 2.5% (0.3–16.8%). [..]
Harmaline/harmine concentration ratios around 0.1 have been detected in brews from Santo Daime where P. harmala is not used. [..]
As seen in Figure 3, there was also a trend toward higher DMT/HME ratios among Daime samples (n = 53) compared to shamanic samples.
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ShamensStamen wrote:[...]
Keep that sci-hub.se site in mind, a lot of full papers can be accessed through that site. If any particular sci-hub portal doesn't work (e.g., if it's blocked in your area or, especially, if using a VPN hasn't solved the access issue), try connecting through "sci-hub.shop", which redirects to your current viable portal. “There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." ― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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If we could figure out if/how brewing methods have an impact on this, I would be thrilled to make a big section about it in the Aya sticky (I'm in the middle of reworking it). Is it possible that the differences are simply a variation in alkaloids between types of vine? I would be all in to brew/bioassay/take pretty pictures under blacklight for the team. Adding vitamin C to a brew can get disgusting quickly, so I'd be curious to hear if anyone knows anything about minimum effective amounts? Some things will come easy, some will be a test
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