Has anyone noticed a yield difference btween whole and pp?

What's pp?

pre powdered i would imagine.

Yep purple powder... swim had more fun with the whole and thought that would go against common sense... he's thinking the powder clumps in the liquids...

I only use the pre-powdered Mimosa anymore....after buying both the whole & "PP" bark from 3 different vendors to test it.
The only difference between them being the amount of work needed to get started on my extraction & the ease of filtering out the plant matter after the acid soak step.
When I've powdered the bark myself, I can never get it fully powderized with my blender, like they do. There is always a few stringy fibers left over, etc... Filtering the solids out is so much easier when it's all the same consistency.


I suppose if you are planing on purchasing a ton of it to store long term (like years), you may want to leave it as whole bark until you are about to use it. The DMT inside probably has a longer shelf life when it is protected from the elements by the cell structure of the whole bark.


Quality & yield was absolutely no different....& I tried bark from 3 different vendors to verify that.


Hope that helps!
WS

I kind of get what you mean, I rather enjoy the process of pounding out & breaking down B.Caapi vine into it's thin fibers by hand myself, when preparing Ayahuasca.
But powdering Mimosa bark is just a pain in my ass!


Using more liquids, better mixing & making sure that it stays warm throughout the process, should cure that right up.
Whether you started with whole or pre-powdered bark shouldn't make any difference here, as you are going to powder your whole bark for the extraction anyway.

TIP:
You want the bark solution to be a freely flowing liquid, not a mud or thick in any way.
If the entire solution is not a liquid pretty much the consistency of water, the DMT can not move as freely within the solution & your yield will more than likely suffer, as some of the DMT molecules stay trapped in the plant-matter-mud, instead of fully migrating into the acidic water.

When finished soaking, you need to filter the solids out of the liquid really well too, for that same reason.
I use a Buchner Funnel setup to vacuum filter the liquids out of the solution. It fully separates the liquids from the solids & I know for sure that I've got all the DMT out of the bark powder because it is returned to 98% dry once the filtering is finished!

I prefer to use an A/B tek (Vovin's tek), as I prefer very pure DMT over anything yellowish or jungle spice, the effects are so much clearer & focused.
I'll usually extract around 100-120g of MHRB when I do it & I'll do three acidic water soaks, using around 300-400ml of warm water for each, with a pH around 2.5-to-3.

So once the Acid soak step is all finished, I have around 900-1000ml of purple, acidic/DMT-water.
Which is filtered very well & then reduced down to around 300-500ml.
(in the oven at 130-150F degrees for around 4-6 hours...tedious, but worth it! check the pic! ...yes that's my DMT)
Before doing a defat & then basifying, pulling with Naptha & freeze precipitating.


Hope I didn't go on too long there...

Cheers!
WS

I know Pedro sifts his bark after grinding.

I've only ever used powdered, no problems at all.

Wow!
Those are lovely crystals WSaged!

Pokey

Either whole, shredded, or powdered will work well for limtek.

But SWIM would definitely trust the quality and purity of whole more than powdered. Most find powdered yields just fine, though.

ahhhhright... since nobody voted for whole, swim is going for the pp again, thank for the comments.

swim discovered another benefit of powdered vs. whole... 1k powedered fits in an apartment mailbox without having to be home to sign for the package

Check out a Buchner Funnel filtering setup!!
It is a vacuum based filtering setup & works great for a number of things!
Not too expensive either.


WS

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