soulman wrote:So how do you feel about the people who say the 4th dimesion is time?
Like i say, i would argue that we sort of can percieve time, so are we sort of 5d beings, or does it not count as we cannot percive it as something solid which makes up our reality.
Man this is a head trip!
We experience only one
sliver..or
slice of time at any single moment, so it creates & defines a boundary to our reality, thus we can not truly perceive it for what it is as a whole...only slices of it.
The same way a 2-dimensional being can not truly perceive of us (as 3-dimensional), but only slices of whatever part of the 3-dimensional object is passing through the 2-dimensional plane.
Think of an apple passing though a flat piece of paper, from top to bottom...When the apple is resting on the top of the paper, a 2-D flat being on the paper, could only see 4 circular things...the 4 bottom "feet" of the apple.
Then as the apple begins to pass down through the flat paper, the 2-D being would see the 4 circles grow wider & wider, until they formed together, into one large circle & it would continue to change size & relative shape as the apple passes through the paper.
Until the circle seen in 2-D started to get smaller again & as the top of the apple passes through the paper, the flat circle would suddenly jump to a tiny dot as the stem passes through...then the apple would seem to disappear out of that 2-D, flat plane, as it ended up completely in the other side of the paper.
Now think of each moment we witness in time throughout our lives, as one slice of time.
(Exactly like a flip-book cartoon...or even film for a movie...when played together they look like seamless motion.)Time as
one whole thing...from your birth, to your death.
You are a 3-dimensional being & time...as a 4th Dimensional object is passing through your reality all around you but you are only able to perceive it one slice...or frame...at a moment.
Exactly like the 2-D being on the paper experiencing only flat slices of the 3-D apple, as it passed through his 2-D reality. He could never see the apple for what it truly was.
Another good example:
Imagine a flat being, moving along the surface of a giant round planet.
He can not see that the planet is round, & as he move forward, he thinks he is moving along a flat plane.
But he never reaches an edge & if he keeps moving forward long enough, he will end up back wear he started!
Because of it's size & his relation to it, he can not see that the planet is round...only that it is flat...but he can think about it & figure out that there is a dimension beyond his own, that is shaping the reality of his 2 dimensions.
The 3rd dimension is taking his
flat circle & pushing depth into it, creating a
sphere.
But the 2-D being can't see that 3rd dimension for what it is, because it is part of what is creating & shaping the boundary's of his reality...it's beyond him.
Time is exactly the same to us as 3rd dimensional beings!!
Time creates & shapes the boundary's of our 3-D reality...so we can't see it for what it truly is as a whole, we can only think about it & figure out that there is a dimension beyond ours that is creating & shaping the boundaries our this one!
A 3-D cube is a square (2-D's) with right angles to itself making it a 3-D square...a cube.
A 4-D cube (a
Tesseract is only a shadow of this 4-d object) is a cube
moving in a direction at right angles to itself.
Here is a video showing how this could work.
Here is another good one!
Part 1 Part 2So time seems to be a component of the 4th dimension, as motion over time would allow a 3-d object to have right angles to itself.
Also interesting, is that a 3-D object will cast a 2-D shadow & a 2-D object will cast a 1-D shadow. (try it!)
So it is logical to think that a 4-D object would actually cast a 3-D shadow!!
WS