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Odd findings in initial testings with DMT and Curcumin (turmeric extract) Options
 
q21q21
#1 Posted : 2/12/2010 6:38:59 PM

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Test of the potentiational effects of curcumin on DMT

Smoked:

9:20am 21mg of white freebase smoke plain for comparison.

(post smoking)

It's been a while since I smoked that dose.

Nonetheless it was quite typical and quite intense at that dose.
Strong CEVs "coming at me", mostly pink dmt-colored morphing women gesturing and dancing.
Peaked for 2-3 minutes, typical for that dose.

Time: 9:31

Now I'll place this 2.5 ml worth of curcumin extract under my tongue. For the strong effects on 5ml without anything this will likely be plenty to potentiate.

After 20 minutes the brew was spat out.

The copper was burned from from the last dose, there was quite a bit still on it.

The copper was then loaded with 21-23mg of the same.

(after smoking)

Brought me nowhere close. It was slow on the onset in fact so slow "I thought I had missed it with the lighter" I turned the pipe around confused but remember I did have the lighter where the spice was melted.

The peak was shorter, but that is pretty similar with lower doses.

Nonetheless the duration/rate and intensity was effected.

In 30 minutes I'll try 40mg...

(25min later, after smoking)

WTF... Effects were felt similar to 5-8mg smoked spice.

Clearly Curcumin has an aid in the rapid tolerance. Now Whether it would have would if I had not smoked the first initial dose... Who knows?

At this point I do know that multiple blastoffs in regular succession in 20-30, minimum 15 minute intervals as he has done in the past without a clear tolerance is impossible under the influence of curcumin.

To make this clear, SWIM started writing this (from the "(25min later, after smoking)"Pleased ONLY 2 MINUTES after smoking 42mg of the same stuff that blasted him nearly to hyperspace with 21. It's an odd feeling to say the least.


SWIM is still going to try the same 2.5ml with 80mg of sublingual freebase dissolved in canola oil as he has planned tommorow, though his expectation are not so high as before.
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Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
polytrip
#2 Posted : 2/13/2010 3:22:25 PM
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One of the questions i have, considering curcuma is: how long is it active?
 
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#3 Posted : 2/13/2010 7:18:33 PM

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SWIM did a test again with odd results... again.

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Quote:

8:35am
placed 2.5ml of the curcumin extract under tongue after a mouthwash.

8:50am
Spat out, mouth thoroughly washed. Effects clearly felt

8:55am
Placed the 4ml of oil w/ 80mg DMT.

Burns a little more than the DMSO, but still tolerable.

9:14am
The burn was pretty annoying actually. Thinking next time to do 1ml per 10mg instead of 20mg.

9:15am
I am feeling something definitely stronger than just the curcumin. hmm hmmm hmmmm, Very happy

9:49
Definitely nowhere near what 80mg with rue would do. No visuals, just quite clearly high and moreso than the curcumin alone for sure, does have a Pharma-like feeling but very mild.

I might try 150mg, I don't know, on another day because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work now because of the tolerance effects of curcumin

11:03am >90% sober by now. Nothing spectacular.


Summary: Although the Curcumin definitely did effect the DMT, it did not produce anywhere near the potentiation of Harmine/Harmaline or THH.

The same 80mg sublingual would have produced full visionary with OEV and CEV

SWIM may try a larger amount in the future, but he has quite a list of substances to test

SWIM assumes he currently has curcumin in his system which he has observed to inhibit re-dosing, ie: heighten tolerace temperarily, with smoked DMT.

However He will tomorrow try the smoked DMT test without the initial smoked dose. He believes that taking curcumin only 2 minutes after the peak of the first dose caused the large tolerance reaction.
Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMT
The 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.

I am almost never on this site anymore so I will likely not answer PMs

 
q21q21
#4 Posted : 2/18/2010 3:10:22 AM

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Finally some success with the combination.

Yesterday SWIM had some of his harmala's extracted from rue just as a test. He was feeling them for sure.

He had some red jungle that he was testing and it had evaporated overnight so he figured he'd try the combination
He had only smoked small amounts of the jungle and he wasn't sure how much to smoke, so he loaded up 25mg. Smoked and he had a very pleasant but mild experience, he won't go too much into the details.
30 minutes later he loaded up 50mg of the jungle, though still a bit wet it was significantly more than the last. Puff, puff, hmmmmm

Just like with the curcumin he got less effects than the first smoking despite there being much more product smoked. That got SWIM thinking, it seems vaporhuasca (at least sublingually) is a one shot deal.

So he tried the curcumin, but fasted from psychedelics for the day instead of taking it on the comedown of smoked spice.

Here are the results:

Quote:
6:15pm 3ml worth of the tumeric extract placed under tongue.

6:35pm smoked 15-20mg white freebase DMT, not sure because I didn't finish it.

What was seen were male and female entities in loving embraces, not too sexual, but the detailing in the figures was incredible. at one point the female entity stared at me and said nothing, quite like a goddess figure in many movies.

There was an african american entity during the tail end of the peak, he placed a finger on my forehead and the oddest thing happened. The song playing I have heard many times before and though in my state I was not aware it was about to end, he looked over his shoulder and ran off about 2 seconds before the end of the song. This particular song had a sudden end, not a fade which made it really odd.

After that the visuals started getting weaker, though blue entities were still dancing around, somewhat like the natives from "Avatar"

The whole experience did not differ in length nor intensity to spice alone, though my headspace was clearer and the visuals were much different, more like N-Oxide than white DMT, though distinct from either.

Summary: Though SWIM knows that he cannot re-dose for quite a while with the sublingual administration, he is wondering if either the curcumin extracted or maybe just plain turmeric can be added as a changa ingredient, there is no doubt in SWIM's mind that it effected the experience.

Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMT
The 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.

I am almost never on this site anymore so I will likely not answer PMs

 
 
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