Hi all.
I'm a big fan of entheogens and have extracted extreme personal benefits from some. Although I have experience with a huge variety of drugs both entheogenic or not, I owe an extreme thank you to what power has been bestowed on a few in general, with regards to their contribution to my life.

1. Magic mushrooms. Most available to me. Least stigma from loved ones.
2. Mescaline. Mescaline did for me what I thought MDMA had done, but later realized mescaline was a far more powerful tool in stoking lasting change. I am not bashing MDMA, I love it although I don't use it anymore, just stating my experience comparing the two subjectively.
3. DMT. DMT has furthered my curiosity more than likely anything else ever.


Magic mushrooms I use a lot, and I usually have a great time in silent or instrumental darkness once a week or 2. Mescaline is longer prep and much less frequent. DMT is a bit of a new entry, but one I plan to pursue a lot more.

I visited DMT hyperspace essentially 4 times, twice by successfully hitting a lot, and twice by combining enhanced leaf and psilocybin.

For those truly interested in answering I would say more context can be extracted from yesterday's trip report than I could possibly write now:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=98923

But the gist is that I took a large dose of mushrooms that were more potent than I thought and ended up in hyperspace to the point where I became convinced that I'd somehow manifested an endogenous release of DMT. I was so convinced, but time and reflection have made me realize that I "simply"(nothing about it was simple) entered hyperspace by consuming enough psilocybin.

After that, I'm kind of in awe at the power of mushrooms again, and I'm of the opinion that vaped/smoked spice is "safer entry" into this realm than mushrooms because being that intense for that long, I can't imagine is the safest thing for one's sanity. As much as my experience was an expression of raw love and divinity, we live in a world where reality is based in pragmatism. Solipsism has no use and thus a psychedelic experience of extreme intensity can just as easily be interpreted in terrifying ways. So my conclusion is = shorter duration + more easily predictable reaction and dosage terms = DMT is a safer entry into hyperspace.

Nonetheless I'm curious as to if others (one commenter has) also have had "mushroom breakthroughs" that were characteristically very different to what mushrooms do normally, and if other drugs like LSD perhaps can also illicit comparable states?

My harm reduction tip: I don't condone overdoing mushrooms - where overdoing it lies is different for all. I also don't condone pushing the limits of substances of any kind in any way that is likely to cause harm or difficulty.

7 grams or more of mushrooms.

Or just a few grams of mushrooms plus syrian rue.


I've found either of these routes have brought me to places where the visuals, the entities, the movement of the space is like vaped spice, but slower. So I guess what I'm saying is that a high mushroom dose, or psilohuasca will bring me an experience much like anahuasca or changa.


As far as safe entry goes...the syrian rue is the only thing that's ever taken me too far or traumatized me. Used in combo with vaped spice or with mushrooms, it's always been the rue that made the trip hard to handle.

Hyperspace is one thing, meeting a godess that will massage your soul is the other one.
DMT is the most reliable of all, although i dont know if i want to meet the godess for more than 2 minutes thought. love is out

mushrooms work also for me but you have to do a lot like about 7g+, if you have pans you just need 2g thats insane.

I heard that lsd works too but it never provided the depth for me and i wont enter hyperspace for 10 hours straight.

My experience with just mushrooms was 6.7 of strong fruits, so I can confirm that. MAOIs are sadly out of the question, I have too much of an interaction profile (from an otherwise totally softcore atypical anti-depressant), and have no wish to abruptly stop when I'm feeling good from hard work.

I'm considering shifting from enhanced leaf to a more effective method though.

My options seem to be a quartz dab piece for my bong or an "oil burner" (meth pipe).

That and maybe using a good quality cannabis vape. Or vaping with a VG/PG liquid vape.

You already read my "mushroom breakthrough" post. That was the only time I ever got anywhere near that, and 4 grams of pan cyans + 2 cubensis didn't get me there, just a normal mushroom trip with the regular effects amplified hugely, but nothing alien. Set is the biggest variable for me it seems, my setting for mushrooms is perfect and always the same.

I did break through two times with just 2g of pans and no meditation at all, the fun thing about breaking though with shrooms is that you can do it with friends^^
But of course you are right, set and setting do a lot and despite the fact that dmt is pretty reliable when it comes to breakthrough there are threads here where people describe being locked out.
This never happened to me but yea it is a mystery...
note that the power of mushrooms varies even more that most people think, ive been tripping balls on 1g and barely felt anything on 3.
I will decently keep an eye on this thread because thats a great topic where more knwledge is needet.
love is out

I mean, you can have a breakthrough on most Tryptamine and phenethylamine psychedelics, some are just more comfortable in that zone than others.

2c-b and mescaline are beautiful at breakthrough dosages for phenethylamines.

My favorite tryptamines to break through on (aside from DMT and mushrooms) are 4-HO-MET, 4-ho-MIPT, 4-aco-DMT, 5-MEO-DiPT, and 5-MEO-DMT on occasion if it's blended with more warm tryptamines (By itself, 5meo is quite scary to me).

LSD works well for breakthroughs with good fluff or needlepoint starting around 700 mcg, 1mg is a pretty much guaranteed blastoff.

Using dissociatives like Ketamine can greatly potentiate the prerequisite headspace for breakthroughs as well, allowing for much lower doses of 5-ht acting psychedelics.

It's all personal preference in the end, and YMMV.

Thank you OP. I find this discussion very interesting.

I personally use the terms breakthrough and hyperspace exclusively with describing depth or distance or weight of an experience with DMT and DMT only. This is because DMT was the only entheogen that I'd heard these terms used to describe for a very long time. It's only in the passed couple years that I've come across others using it with respect to other psychedelics. This is a good example imo of descriptive use and mutability of words and language.

So, with my new understanding, I can say I find it unsurprising that mushrooms are of preference here as chemically they are an extention of DMT. Psilocybin=4-PO-DMT Psilocin=4-HO-DMT. And I suppose with some of my high dose mushroom experiences I have been in "hyperspace" but still "here" at the same time. And LSD too, particularly with eyes closed.

And if you're looking for a new administration method, I can't recommend a GVG enough. My mom got me one for Xmas (and she knew exactly what I was going to be using it for ) and I'm never using anything else for my changa. For freebase, I still prefer the V4 crucible on ay Aegis Legend mod.

One love

Dude, you've got a super dope Momma, lol!

Hahahaha, no doubt bro! And thank you.

One time when a depressive wave was particularly difficult to handle (I've had springs and summers filled with this highly abnormal and difficult uncontrollable crying, something that would happen anywhere and I was powerless to stop. Work, home, gym, store, etc. It would even occur in the gym; imagine a small dude balling his eyes out while deadlifting 405lbs. In retrospect I imagine that it probably looks kinda funny in a dark humor wave) my mom actually told me to smoalk some spice.

One love

+1 on the mega cool mom. Not that my folks aren't cool... but ... somehow I have a hard time breaching this topic with them. Let alone, the other way round.

BUT... I'm glad to hear about the GVG/Changa ... I wasn't sure if it was a good ROA, like "wasting" my Changules by Vaping... a lot of people say to just smoalk it. But admittedly, the GVG can get pretty darn HAWT if ya want it to! *Cue mortal kombat Toastyyyyy sound effect*

The mom story reminded me of one youtuber I've seen doing DMT trip and got completely godsmacked (he seemed to be experienced guy, just underestimated the amount of spice) and freaked so much he cried for help to his dad next room.

And the best part - the dad was super cool about it and calmed him down

curious about your thoughts on the Ketamine enhancing things, as ive just recently stared doing K infusions. They def helped pull away lingering depressive energy.