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igorcarajo
#1 Posted : 2/26/2022 11:39:09 PM
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I have a container with harmala acetate salt that has been dissolved in water. I start adding sodium carbonate. After a few grams, it turns milky and freebase harmala starts precipitating. Measure the ph: 10. So I add some more sodium carbonate, dissolve it, measure ph again: 10. Add more, measure: 10. Why is it that I can easily increase the ph of plain water to above 11, but when I do the same with water with harmala, it won’t go beyond 10? Thanks.
 

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#2 Posted : 2/26/2022 11:50:52 PM

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igorcarajo wrote:
I have a container with harmala acetate salt that has been dissolved in water. I start adding sodium carbonate. After a few grams, it turns milky and freebase harmala starts precipitating. Measure the ph: 10. So I add some more sodium carbonate, dissolve it, measure ph again: 10. Add more, measure: 10. Why is it that I can easily increase the ph of plain water to above 11, but when I do the same with water with harmala, it won’t go beyond 10? Thanks.



Sounds like chemical buffering to me…constant pH within a range, at some point one incremental molecule will dramatcally change pH…in this case, upward.
 
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#3 Posted : 2/27/2022 12:50:04 AM
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Thanks for the response. So I guess my question is: how high do I need to get the ph if I want to precipitate all the harmalas?
 
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#4 Posted : 2/27/2022 1:01:49 AM

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igorcarajo wrote:
Thanks for the response. So I guess my question is: how high do I need to get the ph if I want to precipitate all the harmalas?



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#5 Posted : 2/27/2022 5:07:57 PM

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Rule of 2.
pKa + 2 = >99% free base.
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#6 Posted : 2/27/2022 5:32:22 PM

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The above, plus this should answer your question: https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._and_Physical_Properties
 
 
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