How do I measure out the small starting dose (~5mg)? I have the same scale I'm sure everyone has got but under 20mg it ain't accurate.

Should I do regular DMT first or Meo? I am looking for the natural progression here that will be the easiest on me. I assumed Meo is better cause it only lasts 30min, but now that I read about how those 30 mins are...

If I do regular, is it easier to start with extracting pure DMT and go for the 30min vape ride first?

I am most concerned with making noises while on this. The walls are paper thin here. I've never had this problem but having read on Meo...

Research is key here.

My understanding of 5’meo is that it’s safety profile is relatively worse compared to n,n. Research the risk factors, judge your health against those risk factors. Be in a safe place and consider a sitter for 5meo.

Neither one of these substance are reliably “easy” on the psyche or physiology. DMT is more interesting in my opinion, and less jarring, somehow....

As for the scale: buy a milligram scale. Amazon ought to have one for <$40. It will measure doses at that level for you.

5-MeO-DMT for me was black & white and tunnelly compared to N,N-. Powerful though. I've never done pure 5-MeO though, I've only smoked toad venom a bunch of times. Apparently that's something that deeply effected Mike Tyson. Get yourself a good digital milligram scale so you can be accurate with what you're intending to try. Good luck.

I think, shrooms then vaped DMT then 5 meo DMT is good progression in psychedelics.
5 MeO DMT is the most extreme to me. but also so rewarding...
You need mg scale like gemini ( 30 bucks at ebay, don't need to ruin your bank account but you'll be way safer with an mg scale like that ).
5 mg 5 MeO plugged is nice start.
I did both synthetic 5 pure, and toad secretions.
I can't wait to try virola theiodora but it should be soon ! this month, vegetal, organic 5 MeO DMT is scheduled for me.
Happy day s!
and Happy blaze my friend !

Something you should be aware of is the extreme nature of a full blown 5meoDMT experience as opposed to, really, any other psychedelic. There are physical safety concerns that are dose-related (please research on your own) as well as potentially destructive psychological effects. The experience of dissolution and unification is something that it culture doesn't speak to, and can be incredibly hard to relate to, let alone integrate.

My suggestion would be to find out what it is you are seeking. If you go into a full 5 trip, you aren't coming out the same. The 'acute' phase after the immediate effects can last for weeks, with serious psychic disturbances.

To prepare, you may be well served by reading as much on spontaneous Kundalini awakenings from personal reports of that phenomenon, as well as researching pharmacology and effects of 5meoDMT.

To me, it is the most powerful tool for immediate transformation in the shed.

I've had 5-MeO derived from virola and some that was synthetic. The synthetic was a lot stronger but was missing some kind of effects from the virola stuff - which was tan color. Both were incredibly powerful. I had a lot of the extracted stuff and I never once weighed it out. I just started low and worked my way up.

First time I ever did it I went like this: snorted, sublingual and smoked.

Snorted - hurt a bit but it came on slowly and felt like some kind of heavy opiate. It was actually very nice. Just felt kinda drugged.
Sublingual - very similar to snorting it but made me more uneasy feeling.
Smoked - once it hits (dont take long) it hits w/ ferocity. Kinda like someone just turned up the gravity to 11.

n,n-DMT isn't much of a feel-good, party time drug. All of this is hard to explain but I would certainly recommend doing regular DMT first. 5-MeO just fucks you up ... no visuals but it's certainly psychedelic but you don't do a lot of introspection because you're just trying to maintain. Good ole n,n is like a cosmic orgasm. While you also do very little immediate introspection with smoked n,n-DMT it is sooooooo much nicer. Could say it's beautiful and the visuals are second to none.

I've smoked jungle n,n-DMT changa and it was like a very short, very strong ayahuasca adventure. Fully formed entities and movie-like imagery with eyes closed. Amazing stuff.

Very well written, totally agree..

After 8 years without any psychedelic, i began this journey -2019- with 5-meo-dmt around 7 mg (around 30 mg bufo secretion). then some weeks after that 12 mg , then a month after 15 mg. my takeaway, at that moment was that too little bufo, and your ego fights thru the experience.

So it´s mind bending, etc. but the real healing starts after 10 mg. Then my last two experiencies have been over 20 mg and even if they were incredible. At times i´ve felt that i was pushing the limits.

My recommendation is the same as everyone, measure your dose, and take good care of your set & setting. When you want to go deep, it does help to have already laid out a beautiful path in front of one.

And yes, i´d start with 5-Meo. after that NN´DMT will be a beautiful & loving experience.