In all the posts I've read on this site I've seen a lot of people recommend music during hyperspace journeys, but just about everyone seems to say that music with lyrics is a big no-no. The only problem is, the most positive / uplifting songs I have all have lyrics. The only wordless tracks I have access too are all stoic, and kind of "bland", for lack of a better word. Think I could be alright listening to some of my favorite tracks that have lyrics?

what?



music for hyperspace travel is optional
and words are a distraction when viewing the inexpressible. they'll be devoid of meaning anyway

You have music with lyrics you relate to and enjoy, well if that is the case they may serve you better than a ice cold techno piece you never heard before.

Try a experiment see which serves you best after all its your journey only you can navigate the labyrinth of you mind. Forget about what others tell you is best for you. Because YOU are the one!

Music and other Shamanic tools are exactly that simply tools to help one achieve a desired altered state.

Me I can reach that state with Heavy Metal, Classic Rock , even Country music and pure old FUNK and of course also techno and instrumental tracts. As well as dead silence it just depends on were I need to go in my journey.

I believe you can find the truth by your self, you need no advice or guidance from others because you have a wonderful gift your own consciousness and if you look deep enough into it you will find you already posses every thing you will ever need to know and more.

True once you reach hyperspace you will have no comprehension of the exterior physical world of sights and sounds but the last thing you hear upon departure as well as the first thing you comprehend on return can be the most profound awe inspiring aspect of the entire experience.

The ultimate decision is ALWAYS personnel. Happy trails Brother.
Its your trip take it any way that best suits you, we can not tell you what is best for you. That is yours and yours alone.

Edit.. after some thought the best can not go wrong audio is with out a doubt the sound of nature always works for me. Sounds of rain, wind , river, ocean, birds in the trees..
live in a shitty place like me they got audio nature tracks to. If you can trip in nature that is preferred. I was out in the latest east coast US snow storm I walked to the small creek and hunkered down for about two hours as the snow feel heavily there was already over a foot on the ground and covering all the trees in white. It was erriely silent as the memorizing white crystals fell from the sky.

No sound at all except for a occasional bird in the woods and a very faint sound of the water running across the rocks. I had my small flask, two pipes, and a hand warmer. Next time I will be wearing better boots so I can stay a bit longer. Looking forward to the next big snow.

Peace
MV

My most memorable trip was with music on. Shpongle.

last night a friend had an amazing experience with kruder and dorfmeister - wonderful - that song has lyrics.

i dont mind lyrics sometimes..I like to smoke spice and listen to joni mitchelle and jefferson airplane.

Even soothing music can sound like a god awful racket. I remember one time i put on what i consider calm and soothing music (no lyrics, it was from the buddah chillout lounge cd) A few minutes after blast off it was very oppresive and overwhelming, i had to stumble across the room and figure out how to turn of this alien looking stereo, took me ages haha

I think with low doses lyrical music is very nice.

I'm not too bothered about the lyrics as such, but my criteria for vocals is that they must be quite breathy

Usually with high doses silence is beautiful. However in many environments, silence is not possible. I usually can hear some electronic buzzing coming from somewhere, so I have some textured ambient music just to cover the noise but at the same time nt draw any attention to itself.

I really like programming a very soothing pad into cubase and leaving it looping

It's personal i guess?

I personally wouldn't chose any music with lyrics cause the type of music i like to travel with is non lyrical, on other psychedelics like Mushrooms or LSD i don't mind lyrical music, i had some wonderful trips with hiphop playing in the back, especially with CunninLynguists - A Piece of Strange, just wonderful music to trip to imo.

But on, DMT i never tried lyrical music, i think that would be way to distractive for me to enjoy the trip.

can only put my personal experience forth on this one.... for me, i have never enjoyed anything that in any way "anchors" me to THIS world. our language being one such thing... if there is a shred of "me" left clinging whilest in hyperspace, it will latch on to something....ANYTHING...it can identify with to keep itself alive.

the ego will do just about anything in the face of intangible, inexpressable impossibility.... shameless little bastard....

i have noticed that i prefer to hear the sounds, music and "words" that hyperspace provides above all....but from time to time i do like to have a journey with an ambient background. not only can i not listen to lyrical music, but at this point i can't listen to anything i'm at all familiar with! if my mind even has familiarity with a song, it will hold on to what it knows....("oh...here's that cool part...and now comes the drumming...yeah....oh...i like this part....etc...etc..."

i have gotten a few pieces of music based on the recommendations of my fellow nexians and after listening to the first minute or so of it to decide if the "feel" is right, i'll go with it if i'm in the mood for music.

just once....

this whole process of "unlearning" is tricky some times...

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

If it distracts, it is probably a bad idea.

If it fills your heart and soul with warmth and love... dive right in

UM.....BINGO!

oh W&B....your succinct wisdom makes me smile...

where you been brother? haven't seen you around the boards lately.....

L&G!!

whats so bad about lyrics? i spent like 2 hours once on pharma laying on my bed listening to yes the river knows by the doors on repeat.. it was perfect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27t5txCrwg

I can dig it

"If the Doors of perception were cleansed things would appear as they are infinite"
William Blake who inspired Morrison to call the band "The Doors".

This music does not anchor me to this pitiful world it is my entry into another.

Just like the Shamans song that comes to him with Lyrics from someplace beyond use these gifts as you find best suited to yourself.

Beware of others who say they have the answer and attempt to tell you what to believe and how to live "YOUR" life.

As Allen Watts would say "Its all you and you alone so use it to the best of your ability"

Do not interpit this as a selfish statement when Allen uses the word "You" he is referring to the entire universe and beyond because its all "YOU".

You are a important component of the whole that could never exist with out "you" as a part of it.

Feelings of anger and alienation are impossible to consider in this mind set I wish I could spend more time there. Its not easy.


Peace
MV

Another that Shatters the Dome every time for me at least.

Waiting for the Sun
http://www.youtube.com/w...SKsE&feature=related