The reason I came to this page was to share my experience with dmt, and see what people thought and if anyone had a similar experience. I came into the trip with a mindset, from what I had heard from my friends, that you go to a new dimension, a new world, possibly see entities, see crazy geometry... But that's not what happened to me. I was laying on a bed, I took three large hits from a dmt vape, and everything starting to morph, I got the static-ish noise I had heard about, and then everything imploded into me. At first it started with me just thinking "does anything really matter" "what exactly is time" and then laughing in my head. At that time I still felt like I was imploding into myself and it was very colorful. And tthen there was my break through, which was nothing. Absolutely nothing besides a few reciting thoughts "there is nothing" "nothing matters" "time doesn't exist"
But there was still me, it was me, that's the only thing I felt was myself, not whatever that means though my personality, my presentation in the normal world. But simply me, my unique creative nothing. And then I faded out of it, but I was standing next to the bed, and then I was in my basement, and then I was in the living room wondering what the hell had just happened. To me this means a lot, because of my *obsession* of ontological philosophy, specifically that of Max Stirner, who talks a lot about the "creative nothing" which is what he calls the ego at its deepest level, a way in which he describes it is "I am not nothing in the sense of emptiness, but am the creative nothing, the nothing out of which I myself create everything as creator." and the sense that I am nothing, a singular nothing, unique as there is no normative phrase that can encapsulate me, and unique has no fixed value. To be my unique self, my creative nothing, to own myself truly I must not be static, to keep myself from becoming fixed, under the power of some ideal, some community, I must negate myself, from that negation I can consume myself into myself, as nothing, and out of that nothing in which I have consumed myself I can create myself, new, always new. This relates to my trip in the sense that even though everything from the outside world in my mind was gone, my personality, perceptions, and the such. I was still I, me, my singular nothing. What was important to me about posting this was I had done research on dmt trips and had not found anything somewhat similar to what I had experienced, and just felt like including my philosophical talk for fun

A breakthrough is usually a vivid, joyous, celebratory experience. Intensely visual (think robots crawling out of the furniture) and often with entities that also seem to be happy and curious. It sounds a bit more like you've got snagged in the sort of purgatory, in-between world which is common at doses that don't quite get you over the edge (for whatever reason, too low a dose, wrong frame of mind, vaping technique etc). They can often feel confusing and chaotic and self-questioning, which is why it's often a better strategy to try and vape a tiny bit more rather than a lot less.

I would love more philosophers to take dmt and untangle the experience.

It's hard to breakthrough even with multiple attempts. It took me weeks to learn how determined and disciplined you need to be to breakthrough efficiently. You have to train like a warrior. My advice would be to keep trying until you hit the 'well if that isn't a breakthrough I don't know what is' stage. That worked for me. GL

I had never heard of Max Stirner so thanks I was looking for something to read :B Not many people describe their trips like that but I am pretty sure its because they forget and that most everyone feels this stuff or something akin to it.

But one must have taken a low dose and/or not have technique right because that sounds like the beggining of a trip (the first seconds) or like 10-15mg