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azrael
#1 Posted : 12/13/2009 3:19:13 AM
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Anyone tried this? What's a good dosage to start with?

I saw this by Ott: "I swallowed a capsule containing 20 mg bufotenine (0.28 mg/kg) plus 40 mg harmaline (0.57mg/kg)" and "this proved to be nearly as potent as [100mg encapsulated bufotenine free-based]"

So how much synergy is there orally with DMT? I tried Aya with some vilca seeds once and there was some increased visuals, but the side effects overshadowed the experience - felt like I was very ill for a few hours, purging did not improve things, and I was happy to have it over.

I'm thinking that using the IPA bufo tek would be easiest, but can this provide accurate dosing?
 

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jamie
#2 Posted : 12/13/2009 3:22:14 AM

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I plan on drinking ayahuasca soon and smoking some vilca changa at the peak..it should be good..Im not ready to ingest bufo orally yet...sublingual would be good
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#3 Posted : 12/13/2009 8:37:54 AM

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I highly recommend NOT taking bufotenine orally. It's very unpleasant that way. SWIM has close to 99% pure bufotenine crystals and when taken orally it causes nausea if enough is taken for visual effects. The nausea lasts throughout the whole trip. Bufotenine is much better smoked.
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#4 Posted : 12/13/2009 8:55:37 AM
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69ron wrote:
I highly recommend NOT taking bufotenine orally. It's very unpleasant that way. SWIM has close to 99% pure bufotenine crystals and when taken orally it causes nausea if enough is taken for visual effects. The nausea lasts throughout the whole trip. Bufotenine is much better smoked.
Would stramonium block the nausea?
 
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#5 Posted : 12/13/2009 4:41:13 PM

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I want to start testing out 1 seed toasted and freebased under the tounge..with a light caapi brew. And then 1 seed sublingual before dosing smoked bufo, and also before smoking DMT.
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#6 Posted : 12/13/2009 8:27:07 PM

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Z wrote:
69ron wrote:
I highly recommend NOT taking bufotenine orally. It's very unpleasant that way. SWIM has close to 99% pure bufotenine crystals and when taken orally it causes nausea if enough is taken for visual effects. The nausea lasts throughout the whole trip. Bufotenine is much better smoked.
Would stramonium block the nausea?


Yes, it will to a certain level. Ginger also helps. I recommend 500 mg of ginger and about 4 D. stramonium seeds taken together.

At some point though the bufotenine, if strong enough, has nausea that’s hard to control. Other than the constant nausea though, the experience is very nice.
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#7 Posted : 12/13/2009 8:49:54 PM

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is there much difference between dosing it sublingually and snuffing it?
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