![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Lophophora cacti can be obtained through ebay. They are never listed as Lophophora or Peyote but as Ariocarpus, Astrophytum and Aztekium. Use the pics to determine what kind of cactus it really is, or just ask the vendor. http://shop.ebay.com/?_f...sacat=See-All-Categorieshttp://shop.ebay.com/ite...mp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m359http://shop.ebay.com/ite...mp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m359Check in every few days to see if there are any... eventually you will find some nice deals. Also... always try to order from a vendor who is in the same nation as you are... so it doesn't have to pass through customs! I also encourage y'all to join www.peyoteway.org before buying any Lophophora! WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4689) John
Posts: 700 Joined: 31-Aug-2008 Last visit: 27-Jan-2024 Location: Highland
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I bet you once said that e-bay sealling poached cacti. many of parrot`s were grafted with almost no roots or decipiens, jourdianas, caespitosas etc. Think he finally get the real deal from nursery in uk(suprisingly they were very cheap) and from Netherland about couple of months ago . These came with massive rootstock and looks very williamsi like. ILPT was silly but now he can see the difference between indvidual subspecies although is very hard to say if they are very young. Nobody will rip him off now..... f*****g vendors it was well costy to find the real deal ![Sad](/forum/images/emoticons/sad.png) As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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I know that most of the vendors on ebay who sell Lophophora are not in the USA, so no, those cacti cannot be wild harvested. All the vendors I have dealt with in the USA have had greenhouse grown Lophophora cacti, except one. Always ask if cacti are wild harvested (act like you think it's cool or w/e), if they are, refuse to buy them! WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Ariocarpus are what you have to watch out for being wild collected! Many ebay vendors tear up entire populations and sell each cacti for $80-$200! WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4689) John
Posts: 700 Joined: 31-Aug-2008 Last visit: 27-Jan-2024 Location: Highland
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Ok sweetie I took a bit of my precious time and checked all the pics you suggested and have to say NONE of them are WILLIAMSI ILPT is not a cati grower and he is not intersted in buying and propagating any non williamsi lophophoras . Screw them they are rubbish. It`s only one lophhophora in which he trust Suggest page with lophophora williamsi (with good rootstock not grafted crap) and I will applaud ! As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
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"I also encourage y'all to join www.peyoteway.org before buying any Lophophora" Have you visited there coatl?..I have looked at the site many times..seems interesting..but too far away from me.. It would be neat to take cactus in the desert..I was really liking mescaline but my last trip i only ate 10 grams of torch and was feeling great..until someone smoked some weed with me and then everything turned on me..when I think of mescaline now I associate it with me stumbling around in the woods confused getting caught in time loops where the past 2 minutes would wrap around the present and trick me.. Never again will I smoke cannabis while on mescaline! Long live the unwoke.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Quote:Ok sweetie I took a bit of my precious time and checked all the pics you suggested and have to say NONE of them are WILLIAMSI You gotta use the pics and ask the vendors. WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4689) John
Posts: 700 Joined: 31-Aug-2008 Last visit: 27-Jan-2024 Location: Highland
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'Coatl wrote: You gotta use the pics and ask the vendors.
Not BOTHERED lol Holland Vendor is cheap, reliable, shipping promptly and has good service overall! Parrot just stick to him This Vendor also recognise between Peruvian Torch and Trichocereus Peruvianus just like ILPT. Fantastico Vivat la Netherand (or sumfink) lmao ! As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Well this thread is about obtaining Lophophora... and if your in the U.S.A. you don't really want to get them from "Holland vendor". WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=7223) DMT-Nexus member
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coatl, could you recommend a place for peyote seeds? also what soil mixture do you use. i am in usa. i have a keen interest in growing this very rare cact "I'm creeping back to life, my nervous system all awry, I'm wearing the inside out. Look at him now, he's paler somehow, but he's coming round. He's starting to choke It's been so long since he spoke, well he can have the words right from my mouth. And with these words I can see, clear through the clouds that covered me, Just give it time then speak my name. now we can hear ourselves again" Pink Floyd- Wearing the Inside Out Mogascreeta is a pathological liar and should not be taken seriously under any circumstance.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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http://www.koehres-kaktus.de/index1gb.htm is great for seeds. I just use the cactus soil sold at home depo for seedlings, sprinkle a little fine sand or coco-coir on stop a few months after they sprout. WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=5176) DMT-Nexus member
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^cactusplaza has legit seeds. out of 100 of them I have about eighty seedlings.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=4492) Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Quote:This Vendor also recognise between Peruvian Torch and Trichocereus Peruvianus just like ILPT. You think there is a difference between "Peruvian Torch" (common name) and Trichocereus peruvianus (scientific name)? Oh goodness. Where do some of you people come up with this stuff? WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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