I saw Jesse Jacobs vlog post on McKenna where everyone piles on McKenna. Not that I think McKenna is perfect, but if you take him for what he is.. a story teller, then I think he is fantastic.

So I had to start digging in, one of the side items was James debating an esoteric on the show.

Some things he said that made me question he has ever used DMT:
* "Well when you are there, you can just think about something and it will always appear". I haven't heard of people being able to control their DMT breakthrough before.

Also he does come back with some interesting perspectives:
*I know more people who have ruined their lives than saved their lives due to these, including people not with us anymore, people whose life went downhill and they lost their families, lost their house and job in this persuit, I know a lot of people who ran off to the wilderness.

*Name to me any spiritual leader who has gotten there via psychedelics.

*What you do in life as the results on this work is what matters. <-- this one I think most of us can agree with.


What are your thoughts on his statements and on James in General? The debate link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-IgiHyc3AQ

Thank you very much I will be digging in. That "I can control my experiences" part he put out there bugs me as the exact opposite has been said by so many including the MD and PhD's I've read. Honestly If I thought I could control DMT, I wouldn't be bothering with it.

So I think the point in the Vlog about maybe James just hasn't done enough may be a valid point. There are lower levels I know are me.. then there is the "seems like another" part where even if you are like me and believe it could be deceptive mind, there is always that wonder and doubt because it is more real than reality.

Thanks for these links. Last thread in particular is a very interesting read.