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Eaglepath
#1 Posted : 4/13/2018 12:45:02 PM

I rather root my values in my own hallucinations than in society´s neurotic illusions..


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So inline with Mr Mckenna, do not diddle the dose! Pleased

I have been working with Ayahuasca for some time..(together with the rest of the tryptamine family)
In the beginning I was amazed over the experiences I had with her.. This was then together with a lot of different shamans in different cermonies..
For some reason during this time I had the chance to try nn dmt and thought something like: this is it.. this is what I have been looking for! After that I stopped with Ayahuasca and only worked with pure dmt and Changa.
After some time I had a major crisis in my life and how weird this probably will sound but in a dream I had one early morning Ayahuasca came to me with a clear message: You can not smoke me more you need to drink me.
After discussing this with a Shaman I decided to brew some new Ayahuasca and work with her alone.
Now...

I thought why not boost things a little bit and see what happens..
I work with yellow Caapi and Chaliponga.
A good strong dosage taken from the common sources here and from other places on internet a very strong dose is something like 10-12gr Chali with 50-100gr Caapi.

I made a brew with 1kg Caapi and 300gr of Chali resulting in 1 litre. (I cook her over open fire for 24 hours for the cermonial brew then I do 12 more hours where the result is used for microdosing, yes even after all hours cooking, the last batch is still active)

Dosage: 5cl wait 30min then 5cl more : 100gr Caapi with 30gr Chali.

This has produced experiences many times both for me and for groups I have worked with that truly is beyond nn dmt, mushrooms, lsd whatever.... It is so close to smoked dmt but you are so conscious and it lasts for hours.. and you can in the middle of it go out from the trip take a mapacho and lay down and go direct back into the realms..

Of course I do not recommend anyone to do it.. but if anyone finds it interesting you will be rewarded..Smile

Blessings and love!
"Too cute to live, too cozy to die" - Eaglepath
 

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Jees
#2 Posted : 4/15/2018 9:56:55 PM

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A profound welcoming post Pleased

Eaglepath wrote:
...A good strong dosage taken from the common sources here and from other places on internet a very strong dose is something like 10-12gr Chali with 50-100gr Caapi...
I think so too, and you just tripled that chali, amazing.

The 5 cl, wait, 5cl, ...
how long does that wait last? 30sec? 3 minutes?
Sounds like an interesting approach. In what way does it impact nausea and purge, if any difference?

I'm little surprised about the coming out and in on demand on that level, I can't do that on even much lower doses. Getting a smoke, perhaps, but that's going to be a very oopsidaisy nuts of a smoke on that much chali I think Laughing
 
Eaglepath
#3 Posted : 4/16/2018 3:27:34 PM

I rather root my values in my own hallucinations than in society´s neurotic illusions..


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Eaglepath
#4 Posted : 4/16/2018 6:01:30 PM

I rather root my values in my own hallucinations than in society´s neurotic illusions..


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Jees wrote:
A profound welcoming post Pleased

Eaglepath wrote:
...A good strong dosage taken from the common sources here and from other places on internet a very strong dose is something like 10-12gr Chali with 50-100gr Caapi...
I think so too, and you just tripled that chali, amazing.

The 5 cl, wait, 5cl, ...
how long does that wait last? 30sec? 3 minutes?
Sounds like an interesting approach. In what way does it impact nausea and purge, if any difference?

I'm little surprised about the coming out and in on demand on that level, I can't do that on even much lower doses. Getting a smoke, perhaps, but that's going to be a very oopsidaisy nuts of a smoke on that much chali I think Laughing


Hahahah.. thank you Sir!Smile profound hahaha

The wait last for about 30min. just about when I feel the effect of the first one I go and drink another one.
For most of people I have been working with one 5cl cup is enough. But some have enjoyed the full 10cl as well.

I make my Ayahuasca very clean. Filter many times. I cook it with tabacco as well and some personal herbs. I do not purge anymore, I am very used to her and comparing my medicine with the "jungle" version this is like drinking rasberry lemonadeSmile
Other people purge but nothing difficult, it use to be fine.

You need to command you brain what to do. otherwise it will not work hahaha.... but yeah.. it is many times when I have rolled a cigarette in this status and the concept of "rolling" is just absurdly weird and difficult!Smile

This is the wrong place but I just need to add that comparing Chali and Chacruna like I have seen a lot of and read here.. I think they are very very different.. especially in high dosage.. The 5MEO question is very interesting as well.. I probably would been died by now if it was high content of 5 MEO.. but if it´s in lower volume in the bark I can understand the unique quality of Chaliponga in this dosage..

I work a lot with Changa as well... and with this ratio they are very very similar.. It´s just that with the drinking method you are in the dimensions for hours..

Blessings!
"Too cute to live, too cozy to die" - Eaglepath
 
 
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