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Is it alright to talk about non synth coca extraction here?
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There was a recent thread about coca tincture and nobody batted an eyelid, AFAIK. Re-read the attitude page and see what you think. βThere is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." β Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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Coca extractions are nearly 1:1 to dmt extractions so i guess its okay. Ofc keeping sourcing out of the talk as usual.
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I was just wondering if I could skip the Removed step from the usual extraction and make something nice with repetitive cleaning steps. I'd like to make a full spectrum coca extract without changing anything. Maybe something similar to the paste but higher purity.
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Kilkkercaine big mistake. 
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I was thinking something like.
1 Dry and powder leaves.
2 Base with sodium carbonate
3 Extract with kerosene
4 Salt with sulpheric acid/filter
5 Base with ammonia/ collect precipitate/ wash
Maybe repeat 4&5
6 Dissolve in acetone
7 You could maybe stop here and evap or salt with HCL/ acetone
Thoughts?
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Would you need a de-fat step? What would the final product be?
You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.β
-Terence McKenna
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Hatter wrote:Would you need a de-fat step?
What would the final product be? coke hcl defat not needed
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Besides cocaine, the coca leaf contains a number of other alkaloids, including methylecgonine cinnamate, benzoylecgonine, truxilline, hydroxytropacocaine, tropacocaine, ecgonine, cuscohygrine, dihydrocuscohygrine, nicotine, and hygrine.
The final product would likely be a pasty/ waxy substance containing a mix of these alkaloids. This process does not change or remove anything active like making cocaine therefore would not yield any kind of crystallized coke Hcl.
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hello,
just wonder if do you know the percentage of alkaloids in coca leafs?
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The alkaloid content of coca leaves is relatively low, between 0.25% and 0.77%
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do you mean were not aloud to talk about Removed.
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Dreamoar
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attitude wrote:No synthesis talk that uses dangerous/watched chemicals and procedures
Discussion of simple safe non-commercial synthesis not requiring watched chemicals are tolerated (example: the reduction of DMT N-oxide to DMT with zinc, or the supposed LSA-to-LSH conversion). We are not here to help you make cocaine. Please treat this sacred botanical respectfully.
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I feel that when they make the pure stuff it kind of ruins the plant, the leaves feel way better in my opinion. Its probably because the other alkaloids are changed or removed. I just want to make a nice clean full spectrum extract, for this reason I have omitted any sketchy steps from the proposed extraction. It does not use anything that you wouldn't use in a dmt tek. I'm almost positive it should work, though I would like to see if anyone here has tried something similar. When the leaves on my bushes grow back I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
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