So I have been working with these vilca seeds quite a bit..as some of you probabily already know..
I am getting very curious as to how they are used traditionally..specifically if people in peru or other areas of south america work with these seeds in group ceremonies..outside of the native tribes who use them..

I know there are people here who have been to peru, brazil etc for ayahuasca ceremonies and san pedro..but did you ever encounter people there working with vilca or yopo? When i do end up going to peru I really want to participate in some yopo/vlica ceremonies if possible..it's sort of becomming an obsession! Bufotenine is like the outcast of the entheogens among the westerners..but I think it has great potential when prepared right.

Even if people know of others who work with in america or europe with groups..or run ceremonies yourselves with it..I would be interested in hearing how others respond to it and what they seem to get out of it.

I have seached for info on this entheogen over and over and there is next to nothing..the youtube videos just show natives stuffing durring the day and then running about swinging their arms wildly and shouting!..but I have read that they use them in all night ceremonies and snuff all night and chew caapi vine..even snuffing the vine..

Really there is a lack of good writing surrounding the use of this entheogen...no real reports of people who have gone to the amazon and taken it first hand in ceremony..just reports abotu natives going nuts!

It's such a mystery..I can see why though..I dont think that it's something you can take once and really go deep into becasue of the side effects..but once you get used to them they start to become peripheral and the real effects manifest..