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My first ever DMT experience, also my first ever smoke/vape Options
 
moto4295
#1 Posted : 10/8/2017 1:36:53 AM
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Recently completed my first extraction (Max Ion tek). I used 50g of 1kg of ground MHRB. As an aside...I have NO IDEA how I'll ever use 1gh of MHRB. Holy balls. Ended up with approx 1.2g of (mostly) white, fluffy crystal. A small bit of yellowish goo as well.

As I've never smoked anything, I was unsure how I was going to take the DMT. Based on previous reading, I purchased a GVG w/ couple extra "liquid" pads and a lighter. That seemed to be the preferred method. Still, learning technique, the reportedly harsh DMT vapor, concern for dropping the hot GVG after taking a hit (in addition to my first experience being solo) concerned me.

With some further reading, I came upon a couple positive posts regarding the Divine Crossing V3 ceramic ring atomizer. As I've never vaped, either, this was unfamiliar territory. Still, the reports suggested the DC hit as hard as the GVG, required no vape fluid to use, gave a decidedly less harsh DMT vapor, removed the need for mastering technique, as well as removing the fire hazard. This sounded better to me, so I picked one up. It arrived yesterday, just as my crystal was finishing in the freezer from the re-x.

I've never used any non-prescription material in the past (alcohol aside, and it infrequently). I even purchased a mg scale, as I have no idea what 20, 30, 50mg of crystal looks like. I used the scooper provided with the DC 3.0, and measured 20mg of DMT crystal onto my scale.

Based on readings here, I set the PICO to TC Ni, set resistance (mine was showing .48ohm, seems like most others were .64ohm or so?), set wattage to 35, and set temp to 200. I then transferred the 20mg of crystal to the ring of the DC. I got most of it on the doughnut, but spilt a fair amount into the center circle. I tried scooping it out, back onto the ring (as others mentioned), but all I managed to do was shove it under the ring. Well, ok then. I pressed the button no the PICO, and just as I've read, watched the crystal melt into a liquid on the ring. Pretty cool to see something happen just as you've read. All ready to go.

This was last night. I did not have the chance to attempt my first trip until this afternoon, when the wife/kids went to visit some of her family. I thought I was all ready, but I became VERY nervous. First "material" experience. First time smoking anything. First trip. Attempting to use one of the strongest psychoactive materials as my first experience. Reading that a nervous/negative mindset can lead to a bad trip (which was scaring me to death...I already have a horrific fear of the big eyed grey aliens, but that's a different topic).

Here I was ready to go, and suddenly I was scared to death! I listened to some suggested music, to calm down and see if I wanted music during a trip. The suggested tunes sounded too "energetic" for me, so I put on some Enigma instead. That helped to calm me down, though I ultimately decided I didn't want any music (I also wanted to shut my phone completely off, so I didn't get a vibrate while making this attempt). I then said a very sincere prayer, asking for protection, guidance, calmness if this was the correct thing to do, etc. This relaxed me very much, and I ended up taking about an hour nap (I was in my bed, preparing).

Once I woke up from the nap, I decided "I'll do this later". As I was getting up, it just hit me to "just try it now. You're not scared anymore". And indeed, I was not. So, here we go. Changed the TC on the PICO to 340 degrees, pressed the button, and noticed a bit of "stuff" coming out of the mouthpiece. "I guess it's working". Let's give it a shot.

I put it to my mouth, pressed the button, started inhaling while counting to 10. OMG...yes, this was..."harsh" is definitely the correct word. Maybe not to experienced smokers, but to these virgin (possibly asthmatic) lungs, it was harsh. I made it to 10 (hopefully I was counting slow enough to be 10 seconds, but who knows), and pulled off. I released the button on the PICO. Holding my breath, put my mouth back on the mouthpiece, and repeated the process. Only made it to about 3 before I couldn't handle it. Mouth was watering badly, I started to exhale and ended up coughing lightly, and...boy, was I feeling weird. I have very poor hearing and tinnitus, so I had an expectation of the "carrier signal" sound. It was much like I expected...it's like my "normal" constant tinnitus just became louder and more intense.

Alcohol/drunkenness is my only "altered state" experience. So, I KNEW 'something' was happening, but it didn't feel like being drunk. Different. I sat the vape down, laid down, and closed my eyes. I opened them again in a few moments. I noticed very faint (almost ghostly) patterns developing on the wall across from me. No colors, only light gray lines (like drawn in light pencil) appearing on the wall, and slowly spinning. The pattern was similar to this:



I remember being very comforted by this pattern, and thinking "we had couches with this pattern when I was growing up!". The effect was very weak, but it was there. The ceiling fan seemed to develop "richer" colors as well. The wooden blades, copper metal, the shades around the curves, seemed more saturated. I was looking at it, thinking "that fan has never looked that beautiful before."

This all lasted just a few moments. I found that by looking at the wall and forcing my attention/blinking, it all went away. Once that happened, it would come back even weaker, until it disappeared altogether.

I also recall an odd sensation about my breathing. I remember going through some weird transition where it dawned on my that I was CURRENTLY breathing, not just "paused" in a moment of breathing from several seconds ago. If that makes sense. Initially, I was thinking about my breathing, but it's like I was analyzing it as a 3rd party, outside the scope of time. I had a weird "feeling" that I was trying to ride (or stay on) a breathing "wave" of some sort. Once it dawned on my that I WAS breathing, and this was CURRENT time, it was...just an odd sensation.

At that point it was pretty much over. I'm guessing less than a minute. I looked in the DC, and noticed there was still a good amount of liquid on the ceramic donut. I decided to try the rest, as I was no longer afraid at all. I turned the temp down to 330, as I recall that lower temps leads to less acrid vapor. Fired it up, inhaled, counted to 10, and when I lowered it from my mouth I started hacking and remember saying "this is HORRIBLE". I felt a VERY slight effect, but nothing of significance. No activity of any kind.

So, that's my first DMT experience. My first vape experience. My first smoking experience. My first (non alcohol) conscious altering substance experience. All rolled into one.

I'm not scared now, but who knows if I'll be when I try again. I feel much less anxious at this point, though. I was going to load up and try again, but I thought "You know what, maybe this was the answer to my prayer, and I'm getting exactly what I asked for. If so, no reason to be ungrateful, and be greedy." So I decided to call it done for the day. I feel better about actually 'doing it', and crossing that threshold. I would have been disappointed in myself if I hadn't.

All in all, though most would probably call this a huge failure (and a waste of 20mg), I'm going to call it a successful 1st experience. I pulled apart the DC and cleaned it, and believe I've found a way to block the hole in the donut while filling next time. Perhaps that spilled crystal was part of the harshness?

 

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obliguhl
#2 Posted : 10/8/2017 3:03:07 PM

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Thank you for that report, it reminded me of my first experience, with DMT as my first psychedelic. I was also very inexperienced smoking anything but tried cannabis before and remember it being quite harsh. DMT vapor topped that in terms of harshness and to this day i don't know why some people do not feel the vapor at all. This is simply incceivable to me. Sensitive (inflamed?) lung tissue would be my guess. Also good to hear you are trying it with the divine crossing. The only downside to this ROA is, that you can't see the vapor. With a bong for instance, you can vape a big amount and then take it in one big, painful hit. With the divine crossing donut, you need to draw constantly and for 10-20 seconds per hit and THEN HOLD IT IN.

This can be a problem with sensitive lungs. My recommendation would be to inhale to almost capacity and then a bit of fresh air. That makes it more smooth. Burning DMT is another story altogether in terms of harshness - if you are still within vape temp limits, the increased harshness is simply due to increased vapor production - but that is a good thing because with DMT, the more you inhale within the shortest amount of time the more intense your experience is going to be.

That is whyloading it up to max. capacity and then smoking as much as you can might be a better idea next time. You'd be getting a proper first hit for sure, even as an inexperienced smoker. But it will sting, that's for sure.

What you are describing does sound like an effective dose of around 10mg.
That isnt bad, in fact why not start out small and with less anxiety! You've gotten a few small glimpses, but be assured that a proper dose is nothing like this Smile
 
 
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