I recently got a hold of 100g (supposedly) dried caapi leaves. I read on the nexus that most people get no or only minimal effects from smoking them so i decided to smoke a few bowls and see if they do anything.
1 - 4. bowl : nothing
5. bowl : all hell broke loose
I shot up from nothing to a +++ immediately and it got pretty intense at times. The effects are kind of hard to describe but it was sort of like being high without the mindfuck and the tunnelvision. I also had mild anxiety but unlike with weed there was no sign of a panic attack at all. It was also very easy to imagine pictures, sounds and music. As a crude estimate around 30% similar to weed. I also had a weird urge to move my hands in a strange way and i couldve easily ignored it. However moving them felt incredibly satisfying for whatever reason. Furthermoremy jaw was a bit clenching and i had a cottonmouth.
This went on for 60 min and then it slowly got weaker.
After about 90 more minutes i noticed that i was very sedated and went to lay down. I fell asleep immediately.
I then went on and started smoking 1 - 2 bowls in the evening for sleep for a week and it was effective every time. No diminishing effects. I noticed that i could slightly feel the effects the day after.
Then i stoped smoking it for 2 days and i could still feel it very slightly. It was completely gone on the 3rd day tho.
Ive tried combining it with alcohol and it goes along quite well. The alcohol completely takes away the anxiety and the weird hand movements. I liked this combination.
But then one day i smoked it in a bowl together with some weed and i can confidently that ill never do it again. At first it wasnt so bad. 10 minutes in i was extremely high and enjoyed the experience.
At this point i wouldve expected the effects to not get any stronger but i was very wrong. It just kept getting stronger until i couldnt take it anymore and i had to lay down. At this point i was gone completely just listening to the alien like music in my head. This music was completely insane and impossible to ever recreate.
I dont know when exactly but at some point i came to again and thats when it went downhill. I was an anxiety filled mess. Also my bloodpressure seemed to be very low. I dont know if thats true tho and i suspect i was just cold. Can one feel if their bloodpressure is low ?
So after riding it out i went to sleep and the next day i woke up and my right arm was limp as a noodle. It took a few seconds before i was able to move it again which also makes me
suspect that my bloodpressure was low.
How is this possible ? I can only think of 3 scenarios :
1. Its another plant. I dont know which tho.
2. Theres an RC sprayed onto the leaves. Again i dont know which because the effects arent similar to anything ive ever felt wether RC or classic drug.
3. I have a unique reaction to caapi leaves. This would make the most sense because im more sensitive than other people to most drugs.
If these really are caapi leaves with no other psychoactive ingredients added to them what could be causing these effects ? I have experience with almost all categories of drugs and i cant make sense of this. I take syrian rue regularly and also in high doses (up to 8 gram) but ive never had anything like this happen to me.
Just for reference : Im smoking it with a butane torch through a glass bong. The bong water has small shards of menthol added to it.