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jayfoxpox
#1 Posted : 3/4/2016 12:01:53 AM
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Hello, I never extracted dmt from mimosa hostilis before, and I'm wary of using the other chemicals like lye and naphtha from the other teks like noman, so i decided to go with he poorman's tek. One issue is that I don't have a separatory funnel. The glass ones are expensive, and the Polypropylene ones should work and are more affordable, but it may not mix well with naphtha, making it sort of a waste of money, if I get brave enough to work with lye and naphtha.

To work around this, and not using a turkey baster, I plan to use an oil or oil mixture that will be solid in the fridge and liquid at room temperature. That way after making the sludge, I could separate the oil by putting it in the fridge overnight or a couple hours and then I could simply scooping off the solid oil, then mixing it with the acid, add the oil back in the sludge and then heat it up again to steep for an hour and repeat.

Of course one major con is that it will lengthen the process, but it is less tedious imo, assuming that heating and cooling the sludge multiple times won't be a big deal. I plan on using a mixture of butter and oil, though I'm unsure how the milk solids would interact with the reaction, so I was thinking maybe a coconut oil/ olive oil mixture could work.

The logic behind predicting the melting point may be flawed, but I figured that the meling point of 50/50 coconut oil and olive oil mixture would = (24C + (-6C))/2 = 9C.

Thoughts?
 

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null24
#2 Posted : 3/4/2016 4:45:43 AM

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You're joking, right?

And lye and nps is harder than that how?

Is it April fools yet?
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jayfoxpox
#3 Posted : 3/4/2016 5:46:31 AM
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I didn't say it is harder, but I'd feel much safer working with a much safer tek for my first try...
What's with the hostility?
 
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#4 Posted : 3/4/2016 8:17:05 AM

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null24 wrote:
Is it April fools yet?


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null24
#5 Posted : 3/5/2016 3:40:54 PM

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jayfoxpox wrote:
I didn't say it is harder, but I'd feel much safer working with a much safer tek for my first try...
What's with the hostility?


Maybe I hadn't had my wheaties yet.
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Not hostle, just puzzled. It seems your going through a lot of extra work and thinking about performing a procedure that, while not really looking into nor researching it, seems very questionable and would only end up wasting bark.

If you follow the procedures as outlined here, the chemicals used are not dangerous. And if you're worried about obtaining a feed save product, many concentrated herbal preparations are made the same way. Acid-base extractions up extremely common, and or a simple way to remove the goodies that you're after. My suggestion is to use cyb's/ earthwalker's tek, learning that front and back, inside and out, and then start doing experiments with understanding how the whole procedure works.

Sorry for the hostility buddy peace to you!
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jayfoxpox
#6 Posted : 3/8/2016 4:08:28 PM
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No worries. Thanks for the link. Part of the reason i'm considering other teks is because its harder to source naphtha(especially this one) and lye stuff in canada. I have an idea, but I can't find the msds for them at all to confirm. With that being said, I'd rather go with a food safe method, so I don't poisoning myself if there are other additives.
 
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#7 Posted : 3/8/2016 9:16:38 PM

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Oil teks work fine. They are less efficient and quite a bit moar messy but they will get the job done. Keep in mind you can't just freeze precip or evap with oil. Check out pdf in the first post of the stalking the reed canarygrass thread for a real world example of an oil ran in action. I'd link or add more but I am mobile atm.
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