1.) Some folks at the Ambrosia Society figured out they could grow a white fleecy fungal material by innoculating grape juice with coarsely powdered A. muscaria. They claim this fleece (and grape juice that has been fermented with it) has the same effects as fly agaric mushrooms.

2.) A mycologist investigated the material and determined conclusively that it was not A. muscaria mycellium, as had been previously claimed, but was instead some sort of mucor fungus. Genetic analysis seemed to confirm that the material was not A. muscaria mycellium.

3.) Even if the fleece isn't A. muscaria, the claims of it being psychoactive are interesting... hence my post wondering if more details about this claim might be forthcoming.

4.) There's been speculation that this fleece is a species which is an endosymbiote of the fly agaric mushroom, and it might be responsible for the production of ibotenic acid and muscimol. There is no evidence as yet to support this speculation.

5.) It has been claimed that the (as-yet ambiguous) effects of the fleece-innoculated grape juice are enhanced by heating to 190 degrees Fahrenheit. This is supposedly because ibotenic acid decarboxylates to muscimol at this temperature.... If there is indeed a different active ingredient produced by the fleece, it's possible that this heating process is significant in altering that compound.

muscimol molucules

This is very interesting. I'd really like to try sometime. Did you grow this yourself?
The dosing issue shouldn't be that hard. I've read in a book called the herb of immortality by Donald E. Teeter, that dilution of the wine using water, will make it stronger. Apparently it had something to do with the breaking of the chains that muscimol forms, and thereby releasing more muscimol molucules. Oh yeah, on a side note, the book also stated that muscimol is stable in temperatures of up to 170 C. You should read that book, it contains a lot of history and some tek's(I tried the bread tek using boiled barley, it did not work at all) and a lot of really good information regarding amanita muscaria as a sacrement.

So i wont have to drink my own pee to trip? Looks like it could be worth a shot.

Ya, no reason to drink your pee at all - just dry the mushrooms for 3 months instead.

two of my jars contaminated.

I have the dried bread in a jar now but I have yet to try it

Actually, there is good reason to drink your urine as what is left is pure muscimol because the kidneys filter out ibotenic acid and muscarine which causes the ill effects. There are rumors the scandanavians fed aminatas to cows and and drank their urine because they have such good kidney filtering.

I know your body converts the ibutonic acid. So does properly curing the mushrooms. I have never had any "ill effects" or nausea from eating properly cured amanitas - every aspect of the experience is enjoyable for me and it is very psychedelic and gentle. Curing them works great.

You can drink your urine if you want to - it just isnt necessary.

Not worth the risk once you get something like that....
maybe it would work better in the future if I boiled in water or heated it in the oven a bit first to kill stuff off that way....

I had washed the terra cotta well before hand, but maybe it would work better in the future if I boiled in water or heated it in the oven a bit first to kill stuff off that way.... Not totally sure, but could be worth a try.