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locojuiceman
#1 Posted : 10/20/2015 6:30:07 PM

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Has anyone else had this happen? After taking one good hit last night I was overwhelmed with terror but could not stop smiling...
I've been struggling to get off opiates
Was on them twenty long years with the last 6 or so years, on suboxone. Then I chose the 'location cure' and moved away so I could get off the Subs, which was hell for over a month but heres my issue... when I was on the Subs, I could smoke DMT no problem, it was great most of the time, with breakthroughs...
but NOW, when I go to smoke, I have to at least be on poppy seed tea..which I've been using to stave off PAWS intermittently ...
Darn it I just want to enjoy crossing over WITHOUT using anything else...maybe I should just switch to oral administration seeing as the come up is gradual...
I've had enough being scared outta my wits with a smile across my face
I notice DMT makes us face Ourselves..Our 'demons', and thats what I think is happening but for some reason it seems too frightening to face
I want to be free from the slavery of addiction
I find a paradox here because I think DMT , as it has helped many get off addictive drugs, can do the same for me, but then it has to go and scare me like that when I'm actually doing better than I have in a long time....
Anyone else going through similar or who has gone through similar?
I need to know because I love DMT and don't want to give it up
I feel I need SOMETHING to deal with Life
And seeing as DMT is a Spiritual Molecule, I'd rather stick with that a few times a month than anything else
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Infinite-Potential
#2 Posted : 10/20/2015 7:11:03 PM

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Does the poppy seed tea help? If so i dont see a problem with having to use something to calm the anxiety. Kava Kava CO2 extract is another good option. Once i do an extraction i think im going to give sublingual DMT and harmalas a try. Dont have experience with DMT, but from my understanding the intensity of sublingual is between oral and smoked lasting 1-2 hours. Also harmalas are more efficient sublingually i think around twice as potent than oral. Smoked sounds unappealing to me, most people seem to not be able to make much sense of it and cant bring anything back to integrate anything, though not in every case it seems.

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DMT_Tom
#3 Posted : 10/21/2015 1:01:48 AM

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I'm sorry to hear this problem! It can be terrifying.
I would recommend trying harmalas with DMT for two reasons:

1. They reduce anxiety and provide a pleasant to powerful MAOI buzz if taken in the proper dosage for you.
2. They potentiate the trip and synergize well, even with smoked DMT

I would grab some Syrian Rue and decide whether you can handle the tea by itself (yuck!) or go for your own harmala extraction.
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locojuiceman
#4 Posted : 10/28/2015 1:06:49 AM

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DMT_Tom wrote:
I'm sorry to hear this problem! It can be terrifying.
I would recommend trying harmalas with DMT for two reasons:

1. They reduce anxiety and provide a pleasant to powerful MAOI buzz if taken in the proper dosage for you.
2. They potentiate the trip and synergize well, even with smoked DMT

I would grab some Syrian Rue and decide whether you can handle the tea by itself (yuck!) or go for your own harmala extraction.
Best,
DMT_Tom

Yeah, I LOVE harmala salts.. make them all the time..when I can afford to get the seeds cheap..and with smoking DMT its so much more enjoyable, euphoric and brighter, though more intense as well as longer lasting... I stopped the poppy seed tea and also, if anyone else knows this too, any 'habit' thats addictive is too much, like, no matter how 'small' the use is, when it is stopped there is some withdraws [[ In those of us who have struggled with them for long times and who should know better by now but who slip, thereby suffering setbacks even from slight usage ]] which is what I think actually caused the anxiety because DMT in my experience always makes me face the things I know I should NOT be doing and tells me to STOP ....
I've had the 'Elves' say " Don't come back until you are doing better "
But, thanks for reminding me about the harmala salts because I have some stashed and I forgot how they do help post acute withdraws from opiates and thats what I'm gonna go do now
Thanks for replying, heres info on what I'm referring to about harmalas helping opiate wd's : http://www.sciencedirect...le/pii/S001429990500676X
http://www.sciencedirect...le/pii/S0024320503006477
http://www.bluelight.org...ds-and-opiate-withdrawal
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locojuiceman
#5 Posted : 10/28/2015 1:13:17 AM

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Infinite-Potential wrote:
Does the poppy seed tea help? If so i dont see a problem with having to use something to calm the anxiety. Kava Kava CO2 extract is another good option. Once i do an extraction i think im going to give sublingual DMT and harmalas a try. Dont have experience with DMT, but from my understanding the intensity of sublingual is between oral and smoked lasting 1-2 hours. Also harmalas are more efficient sublingually i think around twice as potent than oral. Smoked sounds unappealing to me, most people seem to not be able to make much sense of it and cant bring anything back to integrate anything, though not in every case it seems.


I love Harmala with DMT, I think its wayyyy too intense when smoked though, so, going for breakthroughs through that route does tend to be too much to fully remember.. I usually lightly toke with the combo instead..taking small puffs here and there to keep the pleasant experience going....
Kava Kavas a good idea though, I think I'll try that instead
And, I have yet to try DMT orally, I've done all the other psychedelics that way except DMT/NMT .....
I will be trying it though and will report back to share experience
thanks for the reply
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