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brainforest
#1 Posted : 10/8/2015 9:59:48 PM

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Hi, I'm doing Cyb's salt tek, same as I've done a thousand times before.

Anyway, after shaking the jar and mixing the solvent in with the mixture, the solvent will not seperte properely.

It rises to the top as it should, however it remains a dark brown colour, and I cannot pull it clear enough to extract.

Any ideas?

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#2 Posted : 10/8/2015 10:09:10 PM

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Have you tried a heat bath? That usually clears up emulsions for me... I have also added more NaOH and that seemed to help also Smile
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#3 Posted : 10/8/2015 10:15:38 PM

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Yeah I always use the heat bath, I've just tried more NoAH
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#4 Posted : 10/8/2015 10:54:10 PM

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For emulsions, lye, salt and time. Or roll your bottle instead of shaking. End over end end or gently over a carpet. ( one you don't mind looking like a murder took place upon if the bottle breaks, not that it would, but Murphy's law...)
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#5 Posted : 10/9/2015 3:40:53 AM
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I was experiencing the same i fixed that situation adding 10 more grams of Lye and more water (50ml) and then more water (35ml) in top. Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 10/9/2015 4:00:53 AM

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I also read that if you mix table salt into the solution you basify it even more, (no Iodine salt) just reg salt it should amp up the base farther to help separate the two solutions, I used it once when I had to and it worked great. Best of luck man, btw you cannot over basify from my understanding, but you can over acidify for the boiling that's what I understand anyways.

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Ok, I have been getting this exact same problem using Diggers Shellite as the NPS.
Adding extra lye, more water and heat bath has not helped. Even rolling gently still seems to get microscopic dots of the base soup caught up in the separated solvent, causing it to look like it is dyed red. Time is the factor here.

Here is what I do:
After the majority separation has occurred, I pipe the red solvent into a collection jar and continue doing pulls. After my last pull I just leave the jar over night.
The next day all of the base soup will have settled to the bottom, and you can pipe out your alkaloid laden solvent into your precipitation dishes or into another jar if you are doing a back salt (mini a/b).
 
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#8 Posted : 10/9/2015 8:37:33 AM

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