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#1 Posted : 8/22/2015 12:18:23 PM
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Hello!

So I tried DMT for the first time just over a week ago and again one week on.

Initially I was apprehensive, not so much about the experience and how or what it would be - I have taken other psychedelics in the past have done a lot of self exploration so I am comfortable with things getting a bit strange. It makes sense to me that there is infinite possibility and potential expressions of reality. No my apprehension was about coming in to contact with the parts of my self that I avoid and am afraid of. And yet this was also my motivation. I am looking for ways to heal and better understand myself. I would be curious to hear from more experienced travellers how they see DMT as a tool for healing?

Both times I had quite a similar experience, it wasn't the strongest does. I felt like I was in a room of purple hexagons, this wasn't so much see as felt. The second time in took DMT I got a sense of creatures around me, which I recognised from my first trip. This time I realised they were mocking me and my life, worries etc. When I relaxed and laughed at myself with them it felt like something shifted. I was able to ask questions and get some answers about how I was living my life in the "sideshow" world that we all share on this earth. I got a strong message from being in that space to continue living as I am living for the moment, to not worry and that I will return to this place again but this is what was needed for now.

I would be grateful for anybody's advice and guidance before I return to DMT next. I see that there are many doors to be opened and I am at an early stage in some regards and so would be glad of any assistance that might aid me to overcome my fears and resistance to go and develop these deeper aspects and get closer to the source of that "Who am I?"

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#2 Posted : 8/22/2015 12:35:14 PM
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One other point I want to add for discussion.

I said there the "sideshow" world that we all share, and I want to raise something and get people's opinion. I have noticed a few people on this forum and also my facilitator when I have taken DMT said this that they hit a place where they began to question the point of their "normal" everyday existence. This is my opinion but I suppose at the moment I do view my ego life and world as a bit of a sideshow to the main event, but I also feel that it is a vital part of the everything, that I came in to this body and world to work through some stuff and it is important that I do that. As and when I return to DMT it seems important to me to cultivate both this life as "me in the world" and the environment for exploration in to hyperspace. Does anyone have any advice on balancing these different worlds so that they can support each other? I'd be grateful to hear some different views and opinions.

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#3 Posted : 8/22/2015 2:14:05 PM

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I think you have a good way of working with it, being able to smile about the thrills and frills is a potent way to put things in perspective.

The way I see it all is with less questions, less searching, less how to's and why's. Trusting that if something must come up, then it will, that in itself is an intention already. Rest for me to experience the flow, both in this world and the other. I do start with calling out on protection and guidance on all that can do so, then don't bother much about it further, it's done.

I don't really care which is most dream or true, it's just all there in parallel with something about me observing it all. I'm so tired of trying to fiddle it out, it becomes soon a stress factor. Effortless seems to fit most even in a hurricane.

I won't say people must do same, but just offering a perspective different from yours which I read like "eager-for-solution", nothing wrong with that don't get me wrong, it's just I unloaded myself from such performance stress. I know some people advise opposite and encourage deep investigation til your last breath and fiber, okay more power to them. Not everyone should have same track and task at hand. The moments I do delve and search it's with less gravity and concern, with more smile and lightness.

Why do I mention about differences in general attitude? I believe it colors and makes up for ingredients during the traveling.

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#4 Posted : 8/22/2015 7:46:56 PM

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Hello and welcome!

DMT will show you some interesting things but it is important to not get too caught up in what all of it means. I only say that because it is very hard to decipher at times. I mean, I've had many trips where everything was completely nonsensical and I couldn't even tell which way was up/down.

It really all boils down to what you are trying to get out of the journey. As Jees said, there is a lot of speculation as to whether Hyperspace is real or not and trying to figure it out will indeed induce unnecessary stress. It is just as likely to be real as it is to not be real.

Any sort of fear and pre-flight jitters are completely normal. Being blasted into a whole new universe can be very overwhelming and even when you know what to expect, it can still surprise you nearly every time. Developing your own little pre-flight rituals should help calm any anxiety. I like to light my favorite incense and/or candles, turn the lights down low or off if the candles are bright enough, take a few deep breaths and think about my intentions. I also like to blast off in my bed while wrapped up in a comfy blanket. Being warm makes all the difference, IMO!

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#5 Posted : 8/23/2015 12:39:48 AM

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The Grateful One wrote:

It really all boils down to what you are trying to get out of the journey.


Hyperspace is like the silent fumbling-awkward-wakefulness you experience between the music you heard on side A, and the music you're anticipating on side B.


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#6 Posted : 8/23/2015 6:12:05 PM

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Admittedly I'm not terribly experienced in hyperspace, but my first trip there was unbelievably intense and long lasting. Overall, it was very similar to what you've shared of your experiences. It left some very strong impressions which changed how I see myself in my day to day life.

I felt like my truer self in hyperspace. After returning I understood that my experiences and personality in this existance are projected through a lens, of sorts. A "snag" in that lens can cause you to fold over as you're "pushed through" and end up at odds with yourself. I was lucky enough to identify one such snag on my way out and back and it has since been much, much smaller and less significant when it comes to shaping my "normal" personality.

In short, I feel like a more integrated person in this world.

I mention this, because over time I think you would do well to play with those parts of yourself that you're scared of. Smoothing out the more unfortunate wrinkles of yourself was an incredibly healing experience for me, personally. I have been consistently happier and more euphoric to this day, over a month after my first and only break through. Definitely take your time with it, though. I believe that the strength of the breakthrough was largely because I went into it resolved to follow rather than lead in the dance that ensued.

Additionally, I can imagine that trying to force that process could have the unfortuante side effect of undermining some of the important foundations that shape your self in this world, though perhaps that's just paranoid caution on my part. I haven't experienced anything like that, but perhaps that's only because I respected that it was a possibility and tread lightly both during my journey and as I sorted myself back out on this side.

My experiences line up with yours beyond that as well regarding the "Side show". My trip has had the side effect of making the importance and edges of this percieved world a little fuzzy at times. I feel that I clearly saw the broadest outlines of the shape of the universe and understand that this world is a game we all choose to play. It's an attractive game because it adds consistent, reassuring persistence to the largely unstructured void that surrounds us, but whether or not it's the most important game, it's still just a game.

Whether either side of the coin is real or not becomes almost immaterial, because as you grow to understand that notion it comes with it an inherent understanding that game or not, all that remains is to go with the flow, live with an open heart and mind, and enjoy what the universe has in store for you.

Or at least that's my understanding so far. More research is required, though it will probably be another year before circumstances permit me to return. In the meantime, reverent gardening keeps my hope and mind afloat in a sea of possibilities.

Safe travels.
 
 
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