Couple questions, folks.

The back story: 250 grams ACRB was split in half, a extraction was performed on half the (volume) of bark, during this several day process the bark was combined with a cup of water and then frozen and thawed several times, followed by the solution remaineing in acid (vinegar/water) stage for 24 hours, then was salted and based, left to chill for 8 hours, then several 100 ml pulls were performed using hot naps. Over four grams of golden majik wax was achieved, which was not re-xed since the whole team is happy with it.

SOOO... Here's the question. Upon performing a similar process on the remaining bark, which was separated into two vessels for extracting, since we wanted to experiment with variances in the process, it appears that the spice is being recalcitrant. While the previous batch had clear flat coffin shaped crystals forming little castles in solvent at room temp, these two bottles aren't doing much.

I applied the same process to them, except the times were increased, due to unavoidable life. Whereas the first was acidified for a day, these were for ,i want to say, several days for one and a week for the other. They were salted and based and left for several more days before pulls were begun.

The jar that was acidified/based for a shorter period is pulling much more yellow naps than the other, which is producing cloudy white naps instead of yellow. Nothing has been dried yet, but we have a plate of orange goo that even as a goo supporter I'm not super happy with.

Soooo, after all that- will having the solution in solution- either acid or base, significantly affect a yield from the same batch like this?

Also, the weather up here is crazy hot, and i think that is throwing me off. Whereas i usually blow gently on a shot glass of naps after pulling to gauge it's density, i can't get this to produce clouds by doing so. It's late summer in the Great PNW, and the it's getting up in the high nineties. So, i get that it may be harder to see, but what about crystallizing? Will the temp affect that negatively? Our last batch was so pretty, the only real difference other than time is my expectation, perhaps i created some type of "uncertain" effect upon the spice simply by thinking about it

Also, if you look down there, you'll see a quote in my sig re basifying till black. I never use a pH meter or strips and, well, basify till black. Is this NOT a reliable indicator of pH being in the right 12+ range? The only other real variance in this extraction could be that i weighed out 125 grams of NaOH for the first, where i simply added based water to the second- until the soup turned black. Do i need to remove that sig?

Thanks in advance.

Just to add, with MHRB, a trustful indicator of pH being high enough is rotten fish odor. If it smells like rotten fish, that's it!

I've never encountered that smell with ACRB.

null24: the conditions were different and you got different results. This is normal.

Or maybe it had something to do with alkaloid variance.

Ended up not being able to get a final weight on that last, ( ) but it's not due to alk variance in the starting material, since it came from the same exact batch...

Sometimes I think DMT molecules are sentient, and rather capricious. Most of the rest of the time I think humans are not always as meticulous as they could be. Their's nothing that says it couldn't be both



This all adds up to significant variance, as far as I can see.


This could well be a factor.

Just out of interest, how long was it between the original, successful extraction and the 'problematic' one which sparked this thread? How long does ACRB keep? Did you store air-tight, in a freezer?

Same week, the bark was viable. Since this was completed, i have uhhh, 'lost contact' with the proceeds. I had yet to begin harvest when i posted this, it was spurred mostly by the absence of clouding in the nps, and I'm convinced that was due to the ambient temperature.

Yeah, there were a ton of variables in my (three) two extractions that were(nt) the same.

I'm pretty sure that the yield was good on that one too, unfortunately the person i was working with wasn't of the same high calibre as the bark i was working with. so i don't know.

Temperature plays a massive role in crystallization and purity of --end-product. This is retardedly overlooked on these forums.