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Amanita and the golden disk - Breakthrough Reports? Options
 
woogyboogy
#1 Posted : 6/23/2015 8:25:31 AM

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Hello,

I've recently stumbled upon this great report
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=15913
and have been researching for similar high dose experiences with the Amanita mushroom.
How ever I only found one similar piece, on another forum, where a person as well completely broke through on Amanita and also got to experience the golden sphere.

It really amazes me, how little reports of such high dose experiences of Amanita there are out there, considering how deep people are willing to dive into things like Aya, DMT and others.
Of course it seems the metabolism of this mushroom can be very harsh on the body, but its not impossible, and there probably already are a few methods on ways to minimize the unpleasantness of this bodily effects. (haven't thoroughly researched this)

I never tried Amanita myself so far, and am far away from ever doing such a high dose, but it sounds very intriguing. Especially considering, that this could be one of very few popularly known drugs actually used in the western world(also for people from Europe, its a link to pagan culture).

And I don't even want to start discussing the theories of the possibility of it having a large part in the creation of christian religion, because no one will ever know the thruth about such claims, but the magnificence of such high dose experiences like the one above, should leave no doubt that it must have been used as an important sacrament by some old European tribes.

Of course the vine is an awesome and unique thing, but it still has to travel long ways from far away tropical countries(at least for those who don't grow it themselves), but with Amanita you could just go in the woods and pick it, and there are loads of it where I live!

Just wanted to bring up the topic, as I found so little information about real breakthroughs with the Amanita. Maybe someone got similar experiences to share, or knows about reports in the web?

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travsha
#2 Posted : 6/23/2015 4:06:52 PM

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I've been smoking them for a while - had a bunch of lighter ceremonies, and two that took me super deep.... Deeper then most other ceremonies I have ever done (deeper then most I did with shamans even). It can surprise you sometimes....

I just started making something yesterday called a "holy grail" where you get the mushroom to grow a new fungus on the inside of a clay bowl and that fungus becomes an endless supply of amanita medicine. I plan on posting a report or thread to follow its progress at some point, but I thought I would try the first batch of "ambrosia" I poured off from it.

I used the instructions from a free online pdf called "Herb of Immortality" (instructions are on page 60 of the pdf). Very easy to make. I'm excited to test it out next week! (too many ceremonies planned this week already, so I think I wont get to the amanita till next week)

The couple of times I went deep with smoking were pretty amazing though... First time I ever smoked amanita I saw a vortex open in the sky - I flew up into it and left my body. What happened on the other side is very personal, but the spirit of the mushroom taught me some interesting things about past lives and my ancestors. Also shifted heavily the way I work with all plants now...
 
woogyboogy
#3 Posted : 6/23/2015 7:10:33 PM

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Thank you Travsha for your answer.

Actually I came across the same pdf you are talking about, so this "resurrection" thing of the amanita really is working? I still have two dried caps from last year, maybe I will try this technique.
Definitly I would love to see a report of yours about this little experiment.

 
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#4 Posted : 6/23/2015 8:30:14 PM

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Well I just started mine yesterday, so I dont know yet if the resurrection things works.... It is supposed to take 2-4 weeks before it is ready to make a second cup of juice from it.... Maybe later this week it should have some growth starting. I'm excited to see how it progresses too, and excited to try this first batch of juice when I finally get some time and am not too busy...
 
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#5 Posted : 6/23/2015 11:12:01 PM

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Just the skin on the cap - its the strongest part, and even when smoking just the skin you have to smoke a good bit.... I cant imagine how much stem you would have to smoke lol
 
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#6 Posted : 6/24/2015 4:05:27 PM

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I picked them - you cant peel the skin off if it is already dried. I prefer to forage my own medicines whenever possible - feels like a deeper connection...
 
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#7 Posted : 6/25/2015 8:47:21 PM

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i absolutely love amanita. i'm new to it but my introduction to the mushroom was promising and interesting. smoking it was really interesting and i always found that it was just as psychoactively potent as cannabis. (IME)

I can't wait to find out if the holy grail thing works. if so i HAVE to try it. did you say that it needs to be fresh material or just any material?

anyways, the breakthrough dose sounds really interesting. i got interested in it from reading about a breakthrough dose on erowid in the experience reports. I'd really, really LOVE to experience an OOBE with something, especially amanita!

Edit: I always smoke any plant matter. i know the skin is supposed to be more potent but honestly i would save it for a breakthrough oral administration and just smoke regular dried cap. I think i smoked mostly cap material with some skin but i hope to try out a europian or czech rep. variety because i'm very interested in energizing herbs.

Also i wonder how we could breed Amanita to grow better? i've heard from someone either on the nexus or STS that Psylocybin mushrooms have had more incentive to be grown and to develop teks but with amanita not so many people have incentive to expirement because no one seems to know where to start and few even know about the interesting effects of amanita.

I hope that more teks are created in the future! this mushroom needs to be cultivated! i'm surprised that supposedly it can grow without a tree-host but time will tell for certain. perhaps we can also eventually have more teks to expirement with that will create variations in effects (much like how if you get some from america versus eurpoe the american ones are probably going to be more relaxing while the european ones will probably be more energizing.

just some thoughts Smile
 
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#8 Posted : 6/30/2015 6:42:51 PM

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You use dried and cured mushrooms - curing is important from what I have read (lets the ibutonic acid convert to muscimol).

From what I have read Amanitas only grow with a host tree and are not very easy to cultivate.... I would love to hear how else they are cultivated, but I have only seen methods for growing a new type of fungus like what is in my grail (doesnt have mushrooms, just a new hairy type fungus).

I finally got to try my first batch of infused juice from the grail and posted about it here:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=651243&#post651243
 
 
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