Hi All,

This is my first post here, so lets me say hi first. Hi ya all Greetings from Holland by a Scandinavian.

After a few successful Ayahuasca ceremonies and allot of research, I decided to try and extract DMT from Mimosa. I made a very successful Aya Analog from the same batch of mimosa, so I figured it was quite potent. (2-3g in brew gives quite strong effect)

I have a volcano vaporizer that is just collecting dust after I quit my cannabis use after my first aya experience. But I´d love to try it with 10-20 mg of DMT.

I decided to try ¨Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek¨, read it over again and again to made sure I understood it, and followed it to the point. But I only had partial success I think.

The Pulls
- The first pull was very very dark, never got blanc. At first I thought it was red, but it was just clear but very dark yellow (almost brown). Though it was fairly easy to see the separation. (Trough the syringe it was clear and see trough but strong yellow)
- Successive pulls got more and more clear/blank, until the 6th pull that was completely clear.

* I used a syringe, and I made sure to not get any of the basified mix in the syringe, It was all yellow clear stuff. And I didnt shake I made sure to just roll it.

I did notice just a few minutes after hitting the baking form, the first few pulls kind of went a bit gelatinous after some time, like blobs of gelatine.

After freezing
The first pull I had in one roasting dish (cleaned with naptha), and after freezing it was only a little naptha that I poured off. There was a layer of yellow solids.

2nd to 4th pull I had in another dish, and in this one there was yellow stuff floating on top of the naptha after a full night in the freezer. But also allot of stuff sticking to the form.

5th and 6th pull didn’t yield anything. Just liquid naptha.

After drying, the stuff I scraped off was yellow and dark brown very sticky stuff. Seemed oily, and had to be scraped off the knife. But it didn’t smell much, just a chemical rubbery or new shoes kind of smell. I should have taken pics.

The dish with floating solids I filtered the Naptha trough a paper towel, but didn’t find a good way to get it of after drying, but it looked and smelled like the rest. (but less sticky)

I decided to try and re-x it, and it only partly dissolved in the clear hot naptha. At first particles kind just floated around in there, and later it went gelatinous again. And the dark brown stuff just sticked to the bottom in solid form. I’ve now left in in a plate to evaporate. Not sure if I will dare to try and smoke this stuff.

Here is what I did and used:

- For Naptha I used Coleman Fuel that came recommended on a Dutch forum.
- Slightly acidic water from my own deionizer machine (maybe that’s what went wrong?)
- The Mimosa is finely shredded, and I tried to powder it in a coffee grinder with only part success. I used 50 g as per the TEK.
- 100% Caustic Soda Crystals
- Sea salt
- Store bought white distilled vinegar (unsure of %)
- As per the tek I use a heat bath throughout all pulls.

I followed the TEK to the point, but something obviously went wrong. Any ideas based on the sticky and gelatine stuff I got? I think the smell is right but for the rest not sure if I will dare to put it in my volcano. The re-x especially concerns me.

I suspect some of the ingredients was not up to par, but what? Could bad naptha cause this? Or the water from my deionizer machine? Or the coffee grinder attempt(doubtfully)

I am thinking to try again and use demineralized PH neutral water and maybe skip the vinegar and go STB? Any suggestion and diagnosis will be much appreciated.

And would you dare to smoke this stuff once it dried up again after the failed re-x?

Ohh and i do have a pretty good Aya analog tek I developed myself, would it be appropriate to post in in the nexus? (It a mimosa + Acacia TEK with separate Rue brew)

On the coleman bottle it says exactly (word for word, line by line):

¨Contains: Naptha (petroleum), hydrotreated,
light; n-Pentane; Heptane.¨

best way to check is to leave a little bit of your naptha in a dish and see if it evaporates completely without leaving anything behind

The yellow goo is likely spice with a bunch of plant fats mix in (hot naphtha dissolves the fats, whereas they'll just get thinner and float around in cold naphtha). What you wanna do now is a second acid base cleanup.

Redissolve the goo in hot naphtha. You'll probably need about 100mL to get everything solvated
Pool your non polar pulls from the first extract and add them to your goo/naphtha mix.
Add 150mL warm vinegar and gently mix over a period of 20-30 minutes (there should be a gunky layer of fat between the nps and the acid solution)
Pull the vinegar solution off the bottom and place in a 500mL flask
Do 2 more vinegar pulls and add to the 500mL flask (now all your spice should be in here, dissolved as DMT acetate)
To this vinegar solution, add about 30g NaOH (or enough Na2CO3 to get a pH of 12) and 10-20g of NaCl. if using sodium carbonate, add very slowly, as the neutralisation will release a heap of CO2. The solution should go milky as the DMT freebase comes out of solution.
Now do 4 or 5 pulls of 50mL hot naphtha, pooling the extracts in your evap dish (you can keep the separate if you wish, but I never do)
Evap your DMT laden solvent to about 10-20% of it original volume.
Freeze precipitate (you could evap to completion, but ime the crystals are always a bit doughy and not as sharp as if freeze preciped)
NOTE: all of this should be done in a warm (60-70C) water bath for maximum solvent efficiency.

Another quick tip; get a length of 4mm tubing (preferably Teflon, but vinyl will work if your not using aggressive nps like xylene or DCM) and wedge it onto the end of your syringe so you can reach into the flask easier (also necessary for getting the acid pulls out if you don't have a sep funnel)

Also, make sure your sea salt doesn't contain an anti caking agent. It won't ruin the process, but it's an extra, unnecessary, variable.

Hopefully this helps you get those pure crystals your after. Post back with results or if you need and more advice/tips/tricks.

Great I will try this id there is enough ´goo´ left to make it worth. Otherwise ill start from scratch again. Thank you

I´ĺl be sure to post back

You could also attempt to dissolve the goo straight into your warm acid solution (300mL + 100mL to be sure, giving it about 5-10minutes of good mixing/folding the goo each time), then filter through a coffee filter to remove the insolubles, then use 50mL naphtha to pickup any fat that might have made it through. Then continue as described above from the basing step.

Also, I wouldn't be at all worried about smokin the goo, it's a bit harder to reach a breakthrough dose because the fats kinda inhibit the vaporisation process, but if you mix it up with a bit of your favourite smokin herb (I know how you Dutch like that lol), give it a few minute to absorb and then bong on brother! I should mention, don't use your good/favourite implement, because there's no way to really get that taste/smell out afterwards (acetone/salt then isopropyl/salt then hot water does a pretty good job, but you will always get a faint whiff of DMT goo, maybe just enough to ignite a wonderful memory, or to remind you "fuck that goo has a harsh taste!" Lol)

Thank you again I think I will do another extraction and pool it together and use your first instructions.

I’ve also ordered a 1000ml and 500 ml Erlenmeyer flask, as well as 100ml syringes with 70 mm long needles AND 1m 4mm teflon tube. (it said 4mm x 2mm, i assume its inside vs outside)As well as PH strips (up to 14)I wanted to get a separation funnel but figured the price didn’t justify it for the use.

I may order more bark as well, but still have some shredded mimosa left, but cinsidering to get some pre powdered acacia and try that.

For the next extract I plan to do the same as before and use heatbath for both acid and base mix, but then let it cool and leave over night. Then do the pulls in room temp to try and avoid too much fat. Does that sound like a viable plan?

Hopefully by this time next week I have some nice white crystals

Yeah 2mm is gonna be the ID. I should have specified, 4mm should be the ID to fit on the nipple of a standard syringe. On the bright side, the Teflon tube should slip snugly onto the end of your needles, so I think you'll be alright in that regard.

Powdered bark is easier to extract. More surface area means a greater area over which your solvent can act, although with a good acid soak (overnight or more) you can get most of the goods out of the shredded bark and into solution, the key is to allow time for the acid to permeate the bark, but powdered is MUCH easier.

I like to do my pulls hot for 2 reasons. Hot solvent dissolves more (yeah you'll get some fat, but that will come out in your mini a/b) and it will separate significantly faster after mixing.

Ok, hot pulls it will be.

I couldn’t resist, so I loaded a bit of the goo in my Volcano Vaporizer using the liquid pad; Holy sh..t, there is definitely actives there. It was very similar to the peak I had in my latest aya ceremony. Found myself a bit scared when it came on, used to aya that comes on much slower. Not breakthrough obviously, but very good. Very clear orange/black geometry and strong euphoria.

And I was surprised how mild it was to inhale, like breathing warm air. And actually very little smell from the volcano head.

I will try breakthrough when I have white crystals, but I have to say I think I like Aya better, more time to get lasting benefit.

I haven’t received my 0.001g scale yet, so I used my 0.01 scale. And the little pile I loaded didn’t register. I suspect it might have been a little less than 10 mg. And as you mentioned the goo didn’t evap very quick. I ended up filling the balloon 3 time for 2 good tokes each bag. Might be more still. I’ve read the pure crystals will evap within 10 sec in volcano, so looking forward (and nervous) to that.

When I get to that point I´m thinking I should test maybe 10-15 mg first. Or even lower maybe?

Ohh, getting some Acacia Trunk bark in powder form, I thinking I will be using that for next extract.

Here is how the goo looks like:

That goo looks like it scraped up real nice. By the look of how waxy it's gone, it's probably loaded with goods, the discolouration and initial gooeyness is likely just due to a small amount of fat.

When you do get white stuff, 15mg is probably a good place to start. It probably won't be significantly more pure, but it does tend to vapourise more effectively than fat contaminated spice, giving stronger effects on a similar dose. That said, it's always best to start slow.

BongWizard, thank you very much for you help.

After the mini A/B I seem to have something that looks more usable, but still a bit yellow and one tiny ´blob´ of brown fat. But note, this was after I also did a re-x first. I also made some silly mistakes and most of the yield was probably lost, but I did end up with this: (It´s a bit over 200 mg.)


But my second extract also seem to be a bit strange. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just my Mimosa that is very fatty? It shouldn’t be weak, the brew I made from it was quite potent.

So I pretty much used the same method as before to extract, and the first pull was so dark I could barely see the separation. So I did a mini A/B today from the 5 pulls I did, kind of followed this TEK for the mini A/B.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t=58064&find=unread.

- When mixing the warm naptha pulls with vinegar, the vinegar turned yellow, I did have a fat layer between naptha and vinegar though.
- When I basified the vinegar it it went immediately milky white
- But the pulls was not clear as indicated it should be in the tek, got yellow pulls. Only the 5th pull was almost clear.
- The base mix went almost clear but yellow after the first pull.
- And the white layer between base mix and naphta was very thick and kept emulsifying, or at least lots and lost of a bit bubbles which made it difficult to suck up all the naptha between pulls.

I was considering to do another mini A/B, but I now have it evaporating in a pyrex dish before I put in in the freezer. Here is how the mini A/B separated for me:

So when mixing the pulls with vinegar, I did actually shake it. So this might have broken up the fat maybe?

The fat doesn't really get broken up, it generally sits between the two layers of acid and solvent. There's no need to shake your pulls in an acid step on the A/B gentle swirling is enough for alkaloids to migrate across. Always go for longer gentle swirling over a 10 minute period.

The first time that I shook the hell out of an A/B I lost a few hundred mg of DMT because it presumably got trapped in all the little oil deposits.

Ok, yield on the second extract wasn’t bad I think. 890mg of yellow fluff from 50g shredded MHRB. I’m considering doing a re-x, but not sure if its any point.

Here is the result after cybs salt hybrid tek plus mini A/B

The one thing I've learned with entheogens is patience. If you have a spare 24 hours, then do a re-x, that way you can see how well you've performed your extraction. The less impurities in your re-x the better your method was.

I normally find that when I do a mini A/B with enough precision, a Re-X isn't required. However I encourage you to do a re-x to make that justification on your own terms.

890mg of yellow fluff from 50g is something to be proud of, that's a great yield.

Hey everyone I'm still new to this whole extraction even after months of research and prep I seem to be stuck on the last part. I have not completely given up 1st and 2nd pull using Q21Q21's method I got crystals mostly floaters and when I pulled the first to pulls after evap the crystals turned to a yellowish oil. Reminds me of BHO and has a faint naptha smell after 4 hours of drying. Q21Q21's recipe used Mimosa I used ACRB its what I had already on hand. and I followed the recipe to a T. What am I doing wrong? Should I be doing something different to keep the frozen crystals from drying to a oil substance?

Unlike MHRB, ACRB also contains NMT which has a much lower melting point. There are tricks to separating out the NMT, have a look around the forum.